grill "shield" rather than block?

[TestDrive]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Thanks CarloSW2.The fella that owns the business here where I use the computer says when he scans a photo,it goes into Photoshop.I've been able to download photos from my camera and email them to friends,but don't know where to send them for ecomodder.com,as an attachment.Help?

Originally Posted by aerohead

I attempted to "join" Photobucket,so I could post the photo and it seized the computer and we had to shut-down and re-boot the computer to get rid of it.------------------------------------------------------------------ If anyone can recommend an alternate hosting site,I'll try that.In the meantime,if you'll send me a PM here at ecomodder,I'll either try and scan and email the image,or mail it to you the old way.

Hi Phil.
Are you

1. Using a computer where you work?
2. Using a computer at a business where you pay for time on the computer/internet?
3. Being allowed to use the computer as a favor?

If you've scanned into Photoshop, you'll need/want to save the image.
Select "Save for Web" on the File Menu.
(Part of the reason for the quiz - if your answer was - "2 Using a computer at a busines where you pay for time ...", there may be various gotchas about saving the picture.)

With regard to the photobucket problem -
Do you know what OS the computer is running? (Windows 98, Windows XP, some version of Mac, ???).
Do you know which browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari ...) and browser version you're using on that machine?
Depending on your answer to the above questions, fixing the problem with Photobucket maybe an extremely simple and easy fix - or not.

With regard to "------------------------------------------------------------------"
I always assumed those strings of dashes were just a quirk.
Seeing as you're apparently working from a computer you have limited access to, now I'm wondering if they're an unintended consequence that just as soon be rid of? If that's the case, let me know a little about what you're doing different when making the posts in which they appear.

Hope this helps.

[lunarhighway]

maybe more cars use this than one would think!... looks like it might be a similar design:

if the claimed 0.24 is true than they're going to have to use every trick in the book...

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by lunarhighway

based on this description i made the following sketch... i hope i interpreted things right here



is this somewhat what it should look like?

what's missing from the description is the relation of the length and the spacing of the foils.

than again, the angles give enough indication to try and build some sort of prototype

Wouldn't the flow get caught on each of those fins as it moves up?

Wouldn't this be better? The idea being that most air is deflected as though it was a plain angled surface, but if air is sucked, it will go in.

[cfg83]

lunarhighway -

I wish we had a bona-fide designer of a car like that 0.24 MBenz on this forum. I want to find out how much aero "makes it" to end-product throughout the design process.

CarloSW2

[lunarhighway]

@winkosmosis

i'm tempted to agree with you sketch, but it's not what i make from the description...

one thing that is a little unclear to me is if this 30degree angle is measured vs a horizontal or vertical line
here's both versions although i assume the second one is correct (it also looks most like what mercedes has)



also your drawing looks like it might generate lower pressure above each slat than behind it, wich might actually suck air out of the grill.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by lunarhighway

@winkosmosis


also your drawing looks like it might generate lower pressure above each slat than behind it, wich might actually suck air out of the grill.

Good point

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by lunarhighway

based on this description i made the following sketch... i hope i interpreted things right here



is this somewhat what it should look like?

what's missing from the description is the relation of the length and the spacing of the foils.

than again, the angles give enough indication to try and build some sort of prototype

lunarhighway,just now back online.Your sketch is very much like what came out of Cologne,with the exception that Ford's airfoil sections have significant camber,arcing like a squashed Greek letter Omega.I didn't bring my work book with me today,so I do not have the article or image for dimensional relations.This coming Saturday I'll try the recommendations members have posted ( thanks everybody!) and see if I can get the image posted.Sorry about the delay.

[donee]

Hi All,

Ya Know, this would be an example where that 2D flow analysis on-line tool would give accurage results. Try that!

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by TestDrive

Hi Phil.
Are you

1. Using a computer where you work?
2. Using a computer at a business where you pay for time on the computer/internet?
3. Being allowed to use the computer as a favor?

If you've scanned into Photoshop, you'll need/want to save the image.
Select "Save for Web" on the File Menu.
(Part of the reason for the quiz - if your answer was - "2 Using a computer at a busines where you pay for time ...", there may be various gotchas about saving the picture.)

With regard to the photobucket problem -
Do you know what OS the computer is running? (Windows 98, Windows XP, some version of Mac, ???).
Do you know which browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari ...) and browser version you're using on that machine?
Depending on your answer to the above questions, fixing the problem with Photobucket maybe an extremely simple and easy fix - or not.

With regard to "------------------------------------------------------------------"
I always assumed those strings of dashes were just a quirk.
Seeing as you're apparently working from a computer you have limited access to, now I'm wondering if they're an unintended consequence that just as soon be rid of? If that's the case, let me know a little about what you're doing different when making the posts in which they appear.

Hope this helps.

TestDrive,thanks for the input.I saw your post last session but store was about to close and couldn't respond.------- The computer that I use is in town and I pay by the hour for it's use.------- It runs Windows XP and the internet interface is through Mozilla Firefox.-------- The thing about the dashed lines,is that I'm not using any kind of word processing program for the text and there is no way to set tabs or do indents to signal a new paragraph.Pretty primitive!----------------- When Al Glidewell helps me send images with emails,he'll go through dozens of key strokes and dozens of windows before it's all done.He just leaves me behind in the dust.---------- Free time is none existent and I feel that if I juggle time to learn word processing and graphics,I'll never have time for the internet.---------- Once I get here to the copy center,it's kinda balls-to-the-wall until the clock runs out.Any help will be greatly appreciated.I have digital camera, and also scanning capability here,and so far have relied on Al do do all the image transfers.Thanks again,Phil.

[aerohead]

lunarhighway,I just posted a new thread "Lamellar grille" which contains the article with images.Sorry I couldn't do it within your thread.Hope it helps,Phil.