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Old 06-01-2011, 12:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How to: Civic antenna delete (reversible)

I deleted the antenna but found a way to avoid removing moldings and unplugging anything. This way to mod is fully and easily reversible. And I might want to reverse it because I have lost almost all of the AM band and the low-end parts of the FM band (such as San Diego and Los Angeles NPR and Pacifica). FM music stations mostly come in okay.

Here is how I happily wrecked my radio (see pics below):

1) retract the antenna and unscrew the antenna housing above the driver's side door.
2) gently pull the assembly (cover and attached antenna) out about an inch or so, in order to turn it over.
3) Slide the housing up the antenna. It will fight you because there is a metal piece slipped into the housing to secure the antenna more snugly. Take your time and gradually work it out (firmly).
4) After removing the housing from the antenna, slip the retracted antenna into the a-pillar.
5) a used a small screwdriver to hold the antenna in place using the metal eye-hole referred to above, and then with a pair of needle-nose pliers slowly extended the antenna into the a pillar and along the roof adjacent to the driver's door.
6) The I temporarily sealed up the hole with electrical tape... I'm not committed enough yet to want to do something more permanently water tight.

This all took about 5-10 mins.

james

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Old 06-01-2011, 10:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My antenna can slide down into the A-pillar. That leaves the plastic molding and the tiny ball-cap sticking out but nothing more. It's a quick pull to restore it. I can even raise or lower it while driving. It's not as aero as your tape mod, but I can use the radio if I want to.

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Old 06-01-2011, 11:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My antenna can slide down into the A-pillar. That leaves the plastic molding and the tiny ball-cap sticking out but nothing more. It's a quick pull to restore it. I can even raise or lower it while driving. It's not as aero as your tape mod, but I can use the radio if I want to.

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EDIT: my 1998 Civic has the same sliding antenna design. I'm trying to shave the surface plastic housing.

Access to the radio is a plus, I agree. I like radio. I like the CBS network on the AM band. I like NPR and Pacifica. Losing them is significant. I am wondering about some sort of alternative to the OEM plastic housing, something flat, maybe of coroplast, and sealed against water somehow. I would like to be able to slide the antenna if necessary. Alternately, a new antenna is a possibility. Something that would be hidden, like in or on the glass, but effective still. Didn't MetroMPG get better results deleting his antenna by sliding it into the a-pillar?
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Gotcha!

Was it for the 1999 revision or the 2001 new model they moved to an in-glass antenna? That'd be even nicer - both radio and aero at the same time.
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Didn't know of the revision at all. Wish I had it.
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did away with my antenna also (love my IPOD) no speakers, no radio. covering the hole was quick temporary. I fully intend to redo it. but I wanted to share using vinly graphic material. it bonds excellently yet is still easily removed in case you want or need to redo it You can get this stuff in 9x11 sheets at craft stores like Michaels available in several basic colors for like 3 bucks. the blue left over from older project. this stuff also makes a good waterproof seal. also might want to check with your local graphics place for scraps or a better color selection. you might notice I put a thin adhesive aluminum label under the graphic material for strenght and rigitity over the sort of large hole. also did this type covering on my crx rear wiper delete(similar large type hole)
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I think the in-glass antenna would be a great option. I just bought an 02 Hyundai Santa Fe, and it has an antenna in one of the rear side glasses. It works *almost* as well as a traditional antenna. I live 60 air miles from Chicago, and work in Gary, so I like to listen to Chicago stations so i don't have to change the station halfway to work. It doesn't pick those stations up as often as my old Volvo did, but its pretty good.

I have a feeling that it might be possible to make your own glass antenna. There's a product to repair a rear window defroster matrix, so why couldn't you create your own? The only issue would be attaching the wire, but the factories that do it must have a way to do it. Also, apparently these in-glass antennas use a signal booster, whereas normal ones don't.

You could also use the rear defroster elements as an antenna, just clip the ground wire off and use the other wire to connect it to your radio. But now you wont have a defroster, which sucks...

Amazon has a pre-made solution for $30 that just sticks on the window, but i cant post the link cause im new..
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You could also use the rear defroster elements as an antenna, just clip the ground wire off and use the other wire to connect it to your radio. But now you wont have a defroster, which sucks...
That is a way cool idea. I live in Southern California--my car may never see another snowflake and almost never frost. Since I'm hoping to use the old antenna housing on the roof as a conduit for wires from a 120w roof-mounted solar panel, using the defroster for the antenna might be a way to avoid killing off what is left of my radio through electrical interference from the solar panel. I'll think it over... thanks. I looked for the amazon link you mentioned, thinking I could post it, but no luck...
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That is a way cool idea. I live in Southern California--my car may never see another snowflake and almost never frost. Since I'm hoping to use the old antenna housing on the roof as a conduit for wires from a 120w roof-mounted solar panel, using the defroster for the antenna might be a way to avoid killing off what is left of my radio through electrical interference from the solar panel. I'll think it over... thanks. I looked for the amazon link you mentioned, thinking I could post it, but no luck...
You reallllly dont need a defroster? That must be nice.

Just make sure to cut the ground wire so it wont short the stereo out! Let us know how it goes...


As for the amazon product, does this help?

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You reallllly dont need a defroster? That must be nice.

Just make sure to cut the ground wire so it wont short the stereo out! Let us know how it goes...


As for the amazon product, does this help? /4353-AM-FM-Glass-Antenna/dp/B0000AYBFR (hehe....)
The weather is fine here, yah. I'll tryy this eventually and certainly report back. I'll be way pleased if it works, and works well.

Hey, backyardengineer, this vinyl graphic material stuff looks good and useful. I can get a sizable sheet for $6-12 in black (my car color). I wonder do you think it would hold a kamm back effectively for a long period? How good a bond does it make? Like painter's tape or like clear 3M packing tape or like duct-tape (which is ugly messy).

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