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View Poll Results: 70 mph miles per gallon?
42 3 20.00%
44 0 0%
46 2 13.33%
48 1 6.67%
50 2 13.33%
52 0 0%
54 0 0%
56 2 13.33%
58 0 0%
60+ 5 33.33%
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Amateurs.
I get around 120mpg at 70mph in the summer in the leaf.
To be a little more fair my wife's hybrid sonata gets around 40mpg, during the summer at 70mph.
Ahh, but what's your cost per gallon in the Leaf? And where does it come from?

In Vermont we're paying 17 cents per kwh. It's all from renewables so it's a cleaner option than gasoline, but it puts a "gallon" of electricity at around $5.70, 210% the price of regular gasoline.

Discounting maintenance, that places my 50mph K-Sight at a somewhere between the cost per mile of a Leaf's combined EPA rating and what you're seeing in practice. If you're getting your electricity from coal it's probably cheaper, but I'm betting it's also less clean.

Would I like to own an electric car? Heck yes. But I frequently drive back and forth to Michigan and the infrastructure isn't there yet for me to do it in an EV, and there aren't any cost savings to switching for local driving because I'm already in a pretty efficient vehicle. Plus this car can embarrass a Mustang GT or base Corvette on the drag strip.

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Old 12-29-2019, 01:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You think you can re register that thing as a non hybrid to avoid the ridiculous road tax? One of the states I'm looking at moving to charges $200. Arkansas even has $100 on the Prius. That and I can't even register the ranger at 25 years old as an antique anymore... It has to be 45 years old to be considered! WAT...
2019 has been a horrible year for my taste in vehicles.
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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With that said I think I'm leaning towards either a 91 Civic Hatch or a 91 CRX for my next vehicle. I already own a 91 civic roller. Needs a lot of work. Can't decide between the civic for extra utility or the CRX because ultra lightweight no aero drag.
I've always wanted a ****box DD I can ding up and not care about, but also get like 50mpg highway at 70, and be fast as **** in gears 1-4.
CRX/Civic really fits the bill.
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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An unimportant context on this particular forum. Perhaps makes sense elsewhere, though.
It’s the only way to sort weight carried from the vehicle itself.

Past payload, what’s the reference which matters? Two seats? Two-cylinder?

How does the MPG at 70 matter if there’s no common ground against which to judge?

If it can’t carry ones family + luggage, it’s not a car, it’s a joke fools play on themselves.

May as well ask how long a 650-mile trip takes. A current Mirage holds 9-gals. Refill at 80% at 40-mpg = 290/miles.

Means as I get 1/2 that number, but have 3X the fuel, I’ll roll past and arrive close to an hour ahead.

With a passenger & gear payload that requires 7-8 Mirage.

So, what’s the point of asking about MPG without a reference?

Taking the bus trumps all of them.

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Old 12-29-2019, 07:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Itís the only way to sort weight carried from the vehicle itself.

Past payload, whatís the reference which matters? Two seats? Two-cylinder?

How does the MPG at 70 matter if thereís no common ground against which to judge?

If it canít carry ones family + luggage, itís not a car, itís a joke fools play on themselves.

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My family is two, and most of the time my car is carrying one. Do I get a bonus for having a small family?

I think perhaps the ultimate metric is total cost of ownership, applied across all vehicles needed to service a group of people. If you need a second car, your cost of ownership increases and it may not be saving you money. Get in a bad accident and get injured and that's a cost too. Die of boredom and that could be an additional cost. Some costs are subjective.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Base rate is 9 cents per kwh, total bill divided by use is usually around 10 to 11 cents per kwh.
NM has the cheapest non hydroelectric power in the nation.
So I pay about 2.5 cents a mile.
The bybrid is more like 5.7 cents per mile assuming I slow down a little and it gets 44mpg.
The infrastructure here didn't exist to drive my old leaf to the next town over and back so I built it.
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73mpg at 70mph on I-26 in the summer.
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Weirdly, the Smart feels happiest in the 65-75mph rev range. Some quirk of the torque curve and gearing, I guess. Either way, at a disciplined 70 on a flattish motorway, warm weather, favourable traffic conditions, she does about 62-63 MPG imperial.

I never take much notice in the Volvo because Mrs Lemmy drives it too, and efficiency is of little interest to her so the peak figures aren't what they would be if it were driven solely by myself.
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about 26mpg at 75mph
about 34MPG at 40-45mph (EVT mode)

that is with a 6.0l engine
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about 26mpg at 75mph
about 34MPG at 40-45mph (EVT mode)

that is with a 6.0l engine
Pretty dang good. Would be neat to see that 6.0L hybrid drivetrain in something a little smaller.

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