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Old 09-22-2012, 10:11 PM   #81 (permalink)
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google is my friend. I searched with parameters as follows: Site:ecomodder.com acetone


this is ecomodder.com, not eco-somebody-else-do-it.com
yes, this!

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Old 09-22-2012, 10:55 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Despite EPA mandated emissions control systems and E10 gasoline, I've somehow managed to get over 50% over EPA combined with a 4 liter Ford Mustang without any modifications to my emissions controls or adding anything to my fuel. In fact, I've only had one fill-up that was under the EPA highway estimate. I generally get better fuel economy commuting than on freeway trips. I must be doing something wrong. :shrug:
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The presence of traffic is the single most complicating factor of hypermiling. I know what I'm going to do, it's contending with whatever the hell all these other people are going to do that makes things hard.

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So much emotional baggage here.

I just mentioned what I read -- to see if anyone here had tried it. I don't have an emotional stake in it as some of you apparently do.

As has already been pointed out, putting it in a vehicle subjects the result to tester bias - pro or con. Until its tested in an engine on a dynamameter, it remains a candidate for further consideration.

Try not to get so emotional about it - it calls into question your impartiality.
Emotion? Care to point it out?

So you're going to pull your engine, put it on a dyno and test this. Great! Let us know what you find out. Btw, I never said it wouldn't work.

Just out of curiosity, how much does acetone cost per gallon?
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Let's play with numbers. E10 gasoline is 10% ethanol, and (I believe) most cars lose about 2% gas mileage with E10 compared to E0 with the same octane rating. If we could remove the ethanol from E10 using zero energy, then we would end up with 90% as much fuel as we started with. The result would be 2% better mileage on the remaining fuel minus 10% for the 10% less fuel, or a net loss of 8%.

Homedepot lists acetone at $17 per gallon on their web site.
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Here's what Wayne Gerdes had to say on cleanmpg.com -" ___As for Acetone, Bluefuzz, has it right. If Acetone worked (it doesn’t), the manufacturers would have a $15.00 plastic tank filled with the crap and a $30 metering injection pump to feed it into the fuel system vs. the multiple tens of $BILLIONS of dollars the manufacturers spend on new engine technology to achieve even a small increase in FE".
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You two have way to much faith in your supposed "logic." Your doing a lot of rationalizing. Some people would call that mental masturbation.

Until you actually test an item under very controlled conditions, you don't really know what the relations might be.

Now, I don't really want to hear from either of you again on your unsupported opinions.
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Milage update

New 2012 Nissan Frontier mileage starting to look better. Here is my mileage plot from fuelly.com



I'm not really doing anything noticeably different, so I got to think this curve is a combination of new engine break-in, computer adjusting to my driving, and me adjusting to the vehicle-computer.

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