Introducing myself

[DoctorM]

I'm an old (70+), retired civil engineer. Just bought a new, 2012 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab SL. Love the new truck, EXCEPT FOR THE MILEAGE - 12.5 mpg first tank. Totally unacceptable.

I'm her for pointers on improving the fuel mileage (short of leaving the vehicle on the dealer's steps)

I am interested in techniques for removing the ethanol, adding acetone, and perhaps the pros & cons of adding diesel to the gasoline.

Seen some good discussions here.

[Daox]

Welcome to the site.

Originally Posted by DoctorM

I'm her for pointers on improving the fuel mileage (short of leaving the vehicle on the dealer's steps)

We've developed a good list of driving techniques here:
100+ Hypermiling / ecodriving tips & tactics for better mpg - EcoModder.com

And a godo list of PROVEN modifications here:
65+ Vehicle modifications for better fuel economy - EcoModder.com

I am interested in techniques for removing the ethanol, adding acetone, and perhaps the pros & cons of adding diesel to the gasoline.

Honestly, don't waste your time. Its not worth it. Do some searching here and I'm sure you'll find some info on this.

[Gealii]

rather removing ethanol see if there is an ethanol free gas station in your area
Find ethanol free gas near you!
lists most ethanol free stations

and like daox said read over the hypermiling tips and vehicle modifications.
Some people are against mods because they don't want to make their car look bad in the
eyes of others, but there are mods that are look oem or are invisible to normal day to days looks

[MetroMPG]

Hi there -

Originally Posted by DoctorM

12.5 mpg first tank. Totally unacceptable.

What would be acceptable? What were you driving before this truck?

How close to the EPA rating are you for the type of driving you're doing?

[user removed]

The worst EPA city rating is for the 4.0 V6 auto and all wheel drive @14 city and 19 highway. Are you using E85?
Need more information.

regards
Mech

[2000neon]

Hey welcome to the forum! I'm sure that with some driving style and any of the proven mods found here (grill blocks for example) can certainly help out your MPG.

[Weather Spotter]

welcome!

I have to ask, but why did you buy that truck? My bother has a 2004 GM druamx diesel and drives like a race driver (he is a cop) and gets 17-18 MPG. I am sure with some tweaking of driving style that truck is capable of 22-25 MPG. So if you must have a truck there are better ones out there.

this leads me to the next question, why a truck?

[DoctorM]

Originally Posted by Weather Spotter

welcome!

I have to ask, but why did you buy that truck? My bother has a 2004 GM druamx diesel and drives like a race driver (he is a cop) and gets 17-18 MPG. I am sure with some tweaking of driving style that truck is capable of 22-25 MPG. So if you must have a truck there are better ones out there.

this leads me to the next question, why a truck?

My brother drives a Cadillac. What the f ck is it to you?
That's what he likes, and the Nissan is what I like!
Get my drift? I don't give a sh t about what you think about it.
You got some technical information, I'm all ears, but otherwise keep your personal opinion to yourself, unless I ask for it.

The best vehicle I ever had was a '92 Nissan Pickup SE-V6 4x4. It had power to pull and got 19 mpg no matter how I drove it -- stop & go in the city, or 80 mph on the highway.

Twenty years later, I expected even better from the 2012 issue. It does has the power to move, but the gas mileage is atrocious. Now I am driving with a lighter foot, and the mileage is improving (not that it is any of your business.)

What attracted me to this site were the discussions on E10 and ways to test it and remove it. I'm all ears for those experimenting with this. But I have no tolerance for eco-freak opinions on the matter.

If the eco-freaks were in charge, we'd all live in an extra-dense high-rises, and walk or ride a bicycle everywhere.

[Daox]

Originally Posted by DoctorM

But I have no tolerance for...

Well, we have no tolerance for posts like that on this forum. You can state your opinion in a reasonable manner or have your leave of this forum. There is no reason we can't have civil discussion here. We have quite a few truck members each with their own reason for driving their vehicle. It isn't an unreasonable question.

[Weather Spotter]

Sorry for asking questions, we get lots of people here who complain about gas mileage and have never considered anything other then an SUV. not that you cannot drive anything you want.

Also I am not an eco-freak, I like to mod my car but I am a gun loving, country guy just trying to save $$. being eco friendly is last on my list of concerns. Every one on here is different and has different motives (which we are all cool with) but blasting people who are trying to help will get you zero help. Tolerating others polite remarks (eco or not) is required, I do not like some peoples rants about carbon pollution.... but I can still politely listen to their suggestions for better MPG.

Adding adding acetone has been tried many times and I have yet to see any proven (give me hard data) to show it works. I tried it myself and could not determine any difference. it also runs the strong risk of breaking seals and gaskets.

As for E-10 I can not find any local stations that do not have a minimum of 10% Some states use MTBE as an knock additive but that leaches into and pollutes ground water making in unsafe to drink so most states banned it and the next cheapest solution was ethanol.

In your looking around have you seen our wiki of mod ideas? it might give you some modding ideas that have shown great results:
Car MPG Efficiency Modifications Main - EcoModder