It's all over but for the sweating?

[niky]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Would that it were so, but it's not. Prosperity may slow population growth a bit, but it hasn't stopped it.

First world populations are shrinking. Immigration hides this in the United States, but the main Caucasian population is in decline.

Of course, economic hardships also depress population growth, but by and large, it's the traditionally well-off segment of the population that stagnates and then declines over time.

Originally Posted by radioranger

true get a new car , thus my point , and youre not taking away someones freedom to go where they want when they want by having a white car or roof, if warming is such a big deal do they free stuff first, thus the white roof concept hurts nobody and takes away no t a bit of your mobility. which is what they are after . the sun beams down approx one HP of energy per square yard facing the sun , multiply that by your roof and others and its a big number, if you could bounce back or not absorb some of that easily why not.

While I am a staunch advocate of painting your roof white and buying white cars (easier to clean, hide scratches better, hide dust better... reflect heat, lower AC costs, etcetera), forcing people to spend money to paint their current car white is little different from forcing people to spend money to modify their current car to accept E20.

Resprays are not free.

Hell... a full respray costs about as much as hardening the fuel system (depending on how sloppily you want either job done). And it takes your car off the road for a few days.

If that's not taking away your mobility, I don't know what is.

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Buying a new car that's already E20 compatible is no more of a hardship than buying a new car that's painted white. Many new cars are both.

Not that I like ethanol-mixed gasoline, but that doesn't take away your mobility, and is another matter entirely.

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Would that it were so, but it's not. Prosperity may slow population growth a bit, but it hasn't stopped it.

We had this discussion tens of pages ago and you were wrong then and remain so.

Just saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTznEIZRkLg

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961

Well....I left but had to come back to do some things. As a rep for the IGC I am required to be "on call". Here today...gone tomorrow.

Your strangely composed posts suggest you are an example of "wankosis belendess" of the first order. At least on this plane, in this universe and on this planet.

I fall short (for now) of suggesting you are a "mentula" but I think it is a matter of time and more posts and maybe a few more people googling it.

[freebeard]

I took a look at Hands Roslings TED talk and it was interesting; but YouTube sucked me (as it is wont) from there to:

Mitchell Joachim: Don't build your home, grow it!

Which is high-larious. The first 2:57 is the TED talk, about growing houses in test tubes that use sphincter muscle for doors and windows; and the remainder of the 5:28 is a rebuttal from the corps that are freaked the "f" out at the prospect.

[Arragonis]

The remainder of that talk is about smartgrids and Malta - I like Malta, been there a few times and plan to go next year.

EDIT the home of the Morris Marina 1.5 Diesel...

[freebeard]

I just noticed you User Title is 'Industrial Revolutionary'. I approve and should start thinking about editing mine. The mods gave me Master Ecomodder; maybe Hot Air Ecomodder?

If you liked that video you might like

Michael Pawlyn: Using nature's genius in architecture

This is the guy that did the Eden Project in Cornwall, and he gets onto fractional distillation of sea water.

[NeilBlanchard]

Don't watch this video IF you want to avoid learning something about climate science:

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[radioranger]

never suggested anyone repaint their car, just all new ones be whiter same goes for your roof, next roof is white, no freedom lost there , at least as far as mobility goes.

[niky]

And E20 isn't mandatory for everyone, either. Not yet. While I agree it would be bad if they forced everyone to fill up with E20, that's not happening.

[NeilBlanchard]

Top notch report on climate change that is happening already:

[youtube]