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Old 06-14-2013, 11:53 PM   #811 (permalink)
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There was a very unusual storm in the Arctic that lasted for a couple weeks, and it has turned much of the ice into slush. All the fresh water from previous years has lowered the salinity of the water and it takes a bit more heat to melt it now. It will start melting quickly soon enough.

The data show that it could be ice free in August of 2016. If it melts completely this year I'd be surprised - and we will be in deep yogurt a few years early.

And it is not just the Arctic that is melting:

http://climatecrocks.com/2013/06/14/...ns/#more-15212

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Old 06-17-2013, 12:35 PM   #812 (permalink)
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I'm surprised Arragonis isn't citing this:

True cost of Britain's wind farm industry revealed
Every job in Britains wind farm industry is effectively subsidised to the extent of 100,000 per year, The Telegraph can disclose.


Total subsidy divided by number employed leaves no consideration of capital investment.
 
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State of the Climate | Global Analysis - May 2013

Global Highlights
•The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for May 2013 tied with 1998 and 2005 as the third warmest on record, at 0.66C (1.19F) above the 20th century average of 14.8C (58.6F).

•The global land surface temperature was 1.11C (2.00F) above the 20th century average of 11.1C (52.0F), also the third warmest May on record. For the ocean, the May global sea surface temperature was 0.49C (0.88F) above the 20th century average of 16.3C (61.3F), tying with 2003 and 2009 as the fifth warmest May on record.

•The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the March–May period was 0.59C (1.06F) above the 20th century average of 13.7C (56.7F), tying with 2004 as the eighth warmest such period on record.

•The March–May worldwide land surface temperature was 0.97C (1.75F) above the 20th century average, the 11th warmest such period on record. The global ocean surface temperature for the same period was 0.45C (0.81F) above the 20th century average and tied with 2001 as the seventh warmest such period on record.

•The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–May period (year-to-date) was 0.59C (1.06F) above the 20th century average of 13.1C (55.5F), the eighth warmest such period on record.


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Eyeballed TSI-- 1361.65w/m^2
 
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@Neal - you said Ice Free - make your mind up.

@Freeb - I would have, but I have a better one...

BBC News - Plymouth diesel power stations 'to help green energy'
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:48 PM   #815 (permalink)
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I wonder what effect 40 million new mexican Americans yearning to drive cars will do. 11 million pardoned and 26 + million more given fast approval, if we dont stop that all these rules mean nothing,
 
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Aragonis: Generators that can be cycled on in only few minutes are needed no matter what in order to support solar and wind. Diesel has more potential for bio fuels. The article is actually a good thing, overall pollution and consumption is reduced, while maintaining stability on the grid.

Radio: different issue entirely.
 
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So far my temperature model is unable to recreate temperatures for before CO2 increased. But for a first round it is oversimplified so that is not surprising.
 
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the GMO issue.....

Good TED talk on GMOs....watch it and learn something???




Arguing with fools about GMOs and global warming, etc....is not the way forward. The best approach is to modify in real terms one's own behavior while it still makes a difference. That is why I avoid GMOs wherever possible.

As far as the other issue....am currently in contact with some aliens I know in order to be able to leave this planet before the worst effects of global warming come into play. So if I suddenly stop posting here...you will know why.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:01 AM   #819 (permalink)
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Thought you'd already left on the last one...
 
Old 06-22-2013, 02:20 PM   #820 (permalink)
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radioranger -- I don't want to get on the bad side of 40 million of my fellow Americans, so I won't rephrase the old joke (you can do that in your head): "When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a hippy."

suspectnumber961 -- That book they showed you called To Serve Man? It's a cook book!

Seriously though: social anarchism.

 
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