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Old 09-09-2014, 11:32 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Do you have a Factory Service Manual or at least a copy of Honda's wiring diagram for your car?

I'd bet your Insight is like my Civic and this fuse tap won't work. Honda likes to use switched grounds and the fuse will interrupt power to several different components in my Civic, including the immobilizer. On the 7th gen Civics you need to interrupt the yellow/black wire that provides power to the injectors (and a few other engine related sensors).

Details here (starting at post #35):
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post376989
Yea I do, and I'm looking at the diagrams but I don't understand them...

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Old 09-10-2014, 12:37 AM   #112 (permalink)
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I don't know much about hybrids, but if the car is fully functional, why is this helpful?
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I don't know much about hybrids, but if the car is fully functional, why is this helpful?
Because I want to be able to kill the car at speeds higher then 19mph.
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From the looks of post #77 of this thread, I bet Metrompg might have a hot tip for ya
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From the looks of post #77 of this thread, I bet Metrompg might have a hot tip for ya
Thanks, I sent him a PM. I keep going over and over these wiring diagrams but I just can't wrap my head around them, uhg.
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Ok I guess I'm shopping now

I'm thinking in purchase these two itens:

Universal Car 3 Meters Wiring Loom Harness Kit with Fuse and Relay Switch 12V

Electronic Specialties Fuse Buddy Tester DMM ATC 303B | eBay

With this and a bit of soldering can I workout something for my car?
I just want to have one button so that when it's pressed it shut down the engine and then when I release my finger it reconnects the injector so I can bump start that sucker again.

2000mc in your installation the green button is to start the car (starter) or just to reconnect the circuit?

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Old 09-10-2014, 10:29 AM   #117 (permalink)
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I'm going that way too, thanks to Jedi Sol's excellent explanation of his own work. This is what I have lined up for mine:

A normally closed, momentary open pushbutton switch
A relay and socket
Some connectors
A "Fuse Buddy"

Basically, just looking at the add-a-circuit makes me think "I see how I can get power from it, but how do I open and cloer the circuit with just the one wire?" The Fuse Buddy made more sense to me- one wire on one side and one wire on the other. I cut the leads off and I'm just waiting for some time to solder everything together and drill a discretely placed hole to mount the button.

I did test it- I put the Fuse Buddy in the injector fuse slot, held the wires together and started up. After I got rolling I separated the wires, then put them back together, bump started and parked the car. And promptly haven't had any time to put it together properly.
Which fuse is it? I hadn't looked at the wiring diagram yet to know if there is a dedicated injector fuse. That'd be perfect.
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Yea I do, and I'm looking at the diagrams but I don't understand them...
The circuit you want to mod is the one with the #7 fuse for the ignition coils (under dash fuse block). You already knew that, right?

You can do this with 3 wires, some spade connectors and a normally closed momentary switch.

You're going to modify the #7 circuit, where pushing the button acts as though you've effectively pulled out the #7 fuse (as long as you're holding the button).

What I did was:

1) Made up a pair of wires with soldered on spade ends (male) that were the same size as the fuse spades.

2) Pulled the #7 fuse and inserted both of the wires with male spades into the fusebox slots where the fuse was.

3) Connected the fuse to the end of one of my wires (added a female spade connector to the wire).

4) Connected the momentary switch to the end of the other wire that's inserted in the fuse block.

5) The third wire goes between the other side of the momentary switch to the other side of the fuse (another female spade connector).

Locate the switch somewhere handy (gear shift), tape up all the connections, and presto! +15 MPG.

I've read there are "add a circuit" kits you can buy that save you having to make up your own spade/wire connections, and includes a handy slot to house the fuse, but didn't look into that.
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Fuse #33, ignition coil (oops, not injectors). I don't know if the 09's panel is identical.

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2007 Civic kill switch fuse

Just posting this for posterity... All this talk of kill switches prompted me to look up the Ignition Coils circuit for my winter beater '07 Civic which also needs a switch.

Looks like it's in the under-hood fuse block, fuse #18 (15 A), says the Internet.

YUP! Just confirmed with actual eyeballs.

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