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Old 04-04-2023, 12:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You seem willing to believe shrills that produce misleading click bait.
Okay means what again? I was just saying you're wrong about everything else.

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All things you would know if you had any useful experience on the subject.
I have a trailer, but neither car has a trailer hitch at the moment.

Have you any experience with pusher trailers?

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Old 04-04-2023, 02:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Why believe someone promoting their own product?
When their motivation is to separate you from your money.

I haven't built a pusher trailer yet. But I believe I will have to.
And it will be gasoline or diesel powered.
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I saw this at Springfield German's Father's Day show-n-shine about a decade ago. IIRC EV Rabbit with a gas pusher trailer with a convertible trunk (the red part).

Were I to add a pusher trailer, it would be a hub motor on a swivel.

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I would do a 1 wheeler that could go be tossed in the boot.
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Unfortunately for me, The Superb Beetle doesn't have a [rear] boot.

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Old 04-14-2023, 12:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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'AirShip-LEAF-1'

I took actual data reported for CAR and DRIVER's 2014 Nissan LEAF ( DRAG QUEENS) and 'built' an 'AirShip' RV trailer sized to fit it [ 3,678-pounds ( 1671.8-kg ) and frontal area of 34.53-square-feet ( 3.208 meters-squared )].
1) The LEAF, solo, was capable of 117.2-miles range to 'bricked' status, at 55-mph, sea level, straight, level, dry, calm, concrete, standard air conditions.
2) The LEAF, as a tow vehicle, pulling a downsized 'conventional' RV trailer/caravan under the same conditions would be 'bricked' at 39-miles range.
3) The LEAF, as a tow vehicle, pulling a downsized 'AirShip' RV trailer/caravan, without propulsion would be bricked at 78-miles.
4) The LEAF, as a tow vehicle, pulling the downsized 'Air Ship', this time with the full propulsion system, bricked at 117.2-miles.
5) Approximately- 50 kWh would adequate for the pack.
6) At 'AirShip's' $20/pound retail MSRP, the smaller trailer would come in at $ 73,561 price ( with solar roof ), as a 'generational' RV, to be passed down through the family, or recycled on the market, as Airstreams are commonly done.
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'AirShip's' wake is part of it's 'secret sauce.' The LEAF experiences at trailer which is only the 'size' of AeroCIVIC.
Airship's actual trailer, as experienced by a Ford F-150 Lightning,or RVIAN pickup, is only a little larger than Spirit of Ecomodder.
This aft-body 'slendering' is greatly responsible for HONDA's Cd 0.10 DREAM, the TOYOTA-56' Cd 0.14, NISSAN's Sun Favor, Cd 0.11, and KIA MOTORS' Console to the Future's Cd 0.15.
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'Basic bodies with drag figures of less than 0.15 can be...used as initial shapes for shape optimization.' Wolf-Heinrich Hucho, page 198-9, 2nd-Edition, Aerodynamics of Road Vehicles, December, 1986.
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It's enormous. How much does it weigh?

I see that and it looks like range cut at least in half, best case scenario.
You know it's weight because you visited the website where the weight was provided.
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some things about LightShip to chew on

1) It's primarily a 'wake-rider', its nose embedded within the wake of the tow vehicle. Check!
2) It's 'gap-filled', using NASA's proven low-drag technology. Check!'
3) The entire forebody is within a favorable pressure gradient, the pressure minimum downstream of hitch ball, guaranteeing flow reattachment. Check!
4) There are absolutely 'zero' excrescences anywhere on the exterior surface of the body. Completely flush. Check!
5) 28% of the overall length the trailer is 'aft-body' just as with NASA's 'shoebox.' Check!
6) LightShips wake is more than 29% smaller than its frontal area, making the tow vehicle experience a trailer, virtually no larger than my T-100 pickup. Check!
7) At 55-mph, compared to an Airstream Classic, Lightship's frontal area allows it to displace only 562-tons of air per hour, compared to 795-tons for the Airstream. Check!
8) If we were to take LightShip's air drag claimed to be the same as that of a Tesla Model 3, this would place it's drag coefficient ( in tow ) in the neighborhood of Cd 0.112, compare to Cd 0.2361 for the Airstream Classic, which is in very good agreement with values published by Sighard Hoerner, for streamlined train boat-tailed tail cars ( Cd 0.10 @ 100% boat-tailing ). Check!
The Bowlus Road Chief Lithium folks should be having 'conversations.'
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I didn't know you could brick a leaf.

More amazing you can repair it and re use after bricking.

Had to read aeroheads comment a couple of times before I realized he meant discharge the battery such that the bms/main computer wouldnt allow further travel.

Aerohead: bricking means turning an electronic device into something that is electronically useful as a common red clay fired brick. Good paperweight, but no other use and not recoverable from this condition.
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'bricked'

Thanks. I see that it's not what I thought.
A couple of guys in a Tesla Model S were at the local Tesla charging site. The owner had intentionally driven the car until it 'quit.' And that was over the Red River, in Oklahoma.
He had paid $120 to be towed to Denton, and was about to go eat while the car took on electrons.
He'd referred to what he'd done as 'bricking' it.
In the future I'll just say that all available battery capacity had been consumed.
I hear that some portion of packs are firewalled off, to protect them from being totally discharged.
The upshot for me was that I was free to stick my head anywhere I wanted around the Model S, and see what Franz Von Holzhausen had penned.

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