New Coronavirus - COVID-19

[redneck]

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[Xist]

Originally Posted by Xist

Vacuum bags are supposed to be as good as N95 filters, but I have not figured out how to make a mask out of them. They are pretty restrictive! I sacrificed one that Mom had. The first thing is that you need to cut along the seam because it will not fold right. I folded it like a car filter, but then it doesn't bend, so what good is it?

Originally Posted by redneck

Fold a polypropylene vacuum filter like an air filter and fit it to a mask with silicone.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Compare Taiwan. Their exemplary response can't be xenophobic.

Same xenophobia as of 20-March:

"Entry into Taiwan is prohibited unless you are a Taiwanese citizen, a foreigner holding an alien residence certificate, a diplomat, or a specially approved business visitor."

"As of Thursday, foreigners in Taiwan on temporary visas or visa-free arrival permits will not be allowed to extend their visas and stay in Taiwan."

[Xist]

Why did Taiwan have a spike in cases?

Why Asia’s New Wave of Virus Cases Should Worry the World

[freebeard]

From the outside I see a single group that don't differ ethnically, but ideologically. So I could support (as a concept for discussion) ideological xenophobery.
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New York Times link? Prolly clickbait.

[serialk11r]

The grain of truth in the WHO saying "don't close borders" is that closing borders to one country doesn't stop people from transiting through another country, while the more effective measure is quarantine and monitoring all arrivals.

Even so, that's not foolproof since there's always some risk of a person spreading disease, so closing borders is now widely accepted when the epidemic is really bad. It's like quarantining cities or regions, crude, but undeniably lowers risk for the outside population.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

I still don't understand this fascination with a 95% efficiency mask that only gets that high rating after passing a 1/2 hr online class for fitment, and allows 1 micron stuff through. And they they add a pop off valve for exhale. Like what's the point?

The point of N95 masks is to prevent infecting health care workers that have work in close proximity to people that have the virus. The one way valve is to make the mask more comfortable to wear by reducing moisture built up inside the mask. Health care workers should be trained on how to properly wear a N95 mask.

A N95 mask does nothing to prevent the person wearing it from spreading the virus.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

The grain of truth in the WHO saying "don't close borders" is that closing borders to one country doesn't stop people from transiting through another country, while the more effective measure is quarantine and monitoring all arrivals.

Especially if you don't actually close the border but instead ban certain groups from entering the country while allowing other groups with the same exposure to enter. Which is what almost every country with a "closed" border is doing.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Xist

Why did Taiwan have a spike in cases?

Why Asia’s New Wave of Virus Cases Should Worry the World

The answer is in the story. They weren't doing this:

"South Korea, which has been praised globally for flattening the curve quickly after an early explosive peak in infections, initially required travelers from some countries to quarantine. This week it expanded the list to cover the entire world."

They allowed people to return without quarantine. Now EVERYONE - foreign or Korean national - that returns from anywhere in the world has to be quarantined for 14 days.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

I still don't understand this fascination with a 95% efficiency mask that only gets that high rating after passing a 1/2 hr online class for fitment, and allows 1 micron stuff through.

55%. This is why I say using a bandana has to be just about as good.

All these fools in the grocery store wearing masks and no eye protection. They're wearing 2/3rds protection thinking they're covered.

The point is really for health care professionals that interact with sick people, and sick people to wear masks. A mask on a healthy person is next to pointless.