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The importance of proper grounds has been covered quite extensively on this site. We've found 1 or 2 tricks to use grounding to improve fuel economy a little more than stock.
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The importance of proper grounds has been covered quite extensively on this site. We've found 1 or 2 tricks to use grounding to improve fuel economy a little more than stock.
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Though, something to watch out for is ground loops. Counterintuitively, adding more engine grounds (rather than, say, swapping the existing ground wires out for bigger ones) can cause all manner of odd behavior in sensitive modern electronics.
I work in the low voltage field and landing both sides of an electrical drain can prevent sensors from working entirely. I can't count the number of times I've had to cut grounds technicians placed at both ends. If the ground paths are properly engineered to begin with (a big if), I'd be wary of changing the number.
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05-25-2022, 04:46 AM
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Ecky, I believe you are mistaken. If you missed it.....
Combustion efficiency converts to Mechanical efficiency and reduces thermal losses since less fuel needs to be burned.
Instead of burning fuel and massing pressure on the piston during the critical crank angle degrees between 15 and 30 after TDC, fuel is burned in the catcons at 1800 degrees Farenheit in the upstream and downstream catcons. Seems like lots of waste to me that could be reduced.
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Since liquid fuel cannot burn, many inventors have found benefits by heating the fuel. At the extreme, heating the fuel to <500 degrees F guarantees 100% vaporization. is probably the most famous guy to prove this concept. One of the MPGenie pages deals with practical ways to get benefits from heating the fuel: Combustible Caliente.
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20% reduction in brake specific fuel consumption is a tall claim, considering BWM
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Did you mean BMW?
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You wanted to speak or express opinions in a pompous or dogmatic way?
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Fair enough, Xist. Points taken; grammar, punctuation, and spelling matter -- even on an internet forum.
The Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) system has not changed much since introduced for the 1964 model year. However, there are things we can do to clean up the toxins in the gasses, and tricks to put PCV to work for better fuel economy.
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Great thread!!!
Going to take some time to digest all of this but I'll have some of my own info/experience here in a few.
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I know the Gadgetman Groove has been explored on this site in the past. I had the opportunity to do some unique testing with the late Ron Hatton himself overseeing the process. It was tested on a flow bench for static flow, and tested on an automobile using a MAP sensor and O-Scope for dynamic characteristics.
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I'd heard a lot lately about misinformation/disinformation/malinformation. Is it creeping into Ecomodder or is it just an example of Poe's Law?
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I wouldn't know until I tried it. There have been a few gizmos over the years that looked like total poppycock. They just capitalized on laws of physics I hadn't yet learned. One good example is Orgone, Ki, Chi, Life Force Energy, and a few other names. I bought lots of material from H&A Industries (Bowling Green, MO) from Harold Kneiss back in the 90's, before the internet. One of the "books" (more like a cheap photo-copied pamphlet) said to wrap your fuel tank in alternating layers of aluminum foil and wax paper. The claims were upwards of 40% better fuel economy with a noticeable improvement in performance. I read over it and tossed it in the trash. Years later I learned of Wilhelm Reich and his Orgone studies. I have since done numerous experiments on both ICEs and food preservation. I can attest there is something to it.
There are other examples, but I try hard not to discount something simply because I haven't yet learned enough to understand it. Most often, if it looks like crap, it is. However, I have been surprised and embarrassed by my lack of knowledge in the past. It has been my open mind and willingness to test and verify that has allowed me to learn much of what I now know.
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