Are the normies noticing rising gas prices yet? Gas is at a multi-year high price.

[oil pan 4]

I remember reading an article from after hurricane Katrina when gas prices went over $3 a gallon and everyone freaked out. The article said that vehicle fuel economy was down at like #7 on new car shoppers concers before gas prices went up and that the gas price surge in gas prices raised the concern for fuel economy to spot #4.
Then when gas prices went back down so did people's concerns for fuel economy.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I remember reading an article from after hurricane Katrina when gas prices went over $3 a gallon and everyone freaked out. The article said that vehicle fuel economy was down at like #7 on new car shoppers concers before gas prices went up and that the gas price surge in gas prices raised the concern for fuel economy to spot #4.
Then when gas prices went back down so did people's concerns for fuel economy.

According to a recent poll, it's #2 right now. People are liars though, especially to themselves. They will claim they value what they believe others want to hear, not what they actually value, even if the survey is anonymous.

[wdb]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

According to a recent poll, it's #2 right now. People are liars though, especially to themselves. They will claim they value what they believe others want to hear, not what they actually value, even if the survey is anonymous.

Or they just mean something different than ecofolks do when they say "fuel efficiency". It wasn't all that long ago that breaking 20mpg meant you were being fuel efficient.

[Fat Charlie]

"Suitability for everyday use" is a lot higher on that survey than I see it on the roads.

[redpoint5]

Anyone have comments on the wall O text I posted? The subject is too interesting for me to let go yet.

Originally Posted by wdb

Or they just mean something different than ecofolks do when they say "fuel efficiency". It wasn't all that long ago that breaking 20mpg meant you were being fuel efficient.

Sure, most people are bad at math, financial responsibility, reason, etc, etc. However, recent trends suggest vehicles are becoming more fuel efficient.

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

"Suitability for everyday use" is a lot higher on that survey than I see it on the roads.

As I say, people deceive themselves, and therefore others. They will rationalize the suitability part of their vehicle purchase despite the fact that it was mostly an emotional decision.

[RedDevil]

Suitability as in 'I want to be seen in a ...'

[oil pan 4]

The article I read was about 3 or 4 years old.
But people must be lieing to them selves. Because if fuel economy was important to new car buyers then why is ford discontinuing most car sales in North America and other makes are discontinuing economy car lines?
Maybe buyers are thinking more along the lines of the dodge SUV gets 17mpg and the competing GMC SUV gets 19. Go with the GMC.
Both are as roof over prone as can be so safety isn't much of a concern either.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

...But people must be lieing to them selves.

...Maybe buyers are thinking more along the lines of the dodge SUV gets 17mpg and the competing GMC SUV gets 19. Go with the GMC.
Both are as roof over prone as can be so safety isn't much of a concern either.

As the survey shows, the #1 reported priority is safety, and people feel safer in large vehicles. We now live in a culture of feelings being considered more true than reality, so if it feels safer, it has to be safer, despite any information to the contrary.

[Xist]

I feel offended by your use of logic. Why are you intolerant of my special feelings?!

[freebeard]

I try to never ascribe to Frankfurt School Marxism, what might be simply be a bad joke.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Anyone have comments on the wall O text I posted? The subject is too interesting for me to let go yet.

As a favor, I took another look. No.

This is my position in a nutshell: Most new car consumers don't think like I (we) do.

Okay I'll try: I'm with you that far, but then it goes into the weeds about financing, &etc.

This is where I say EV's will answer the call.

I've always got the best cars out of farmer's fields for cash*. An electric tadpole is a unique architecture. I'm preparing to liquidate assets to get one. Interested in a 36hp engine case?

It's It's [bearing witness to ones friends] and [family being out of work and facing harsh challenges] that will affect mass EV adoption. At least I think so.

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*1959 Rambler wagon, 1956 VW mit sunroof, 1971 Superbeetle