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Old 09-09-2013, 07:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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50+ MPG Cars Prohibited in the U.S. and Canada | 2012 The Big Picture

Or better: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/07.13/50plus.html

The 35 MPG Camaros were sold to Australia, when the car owners here in the states talked with them they found out about the Easter egg.

I don't know if they are still in OBDII ECUs only the Camaro's ECUs of the 80s.

We get cheap gas and bad MPG overseas they pay more and get better MPG.

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Pretty much just aero tricks and coasting. A little bit of math and physics but that isn't very important as it seem to just limit our desired advancements.

What can you teach us? Are you saying the computers are hobbled and we just need to unlock the Easter eggs? Why would the auto companies that are now challenged with finding high MPG do this?


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Old 09-09-2013, 07:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I can tell you one thing that helps cause this poor MPG.

We have to compile to a OX standard that the rest of the world doesn't.

OX is made by lean burns... so we cannot run lean and have OK Snog testing.

I don't think OX is harmful to people etc, only to MPG.

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PS This will not be a problem running on only vapor...
 
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Highway, 60 to 80MPH..

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you do know that north america has different emission standards then europe; along with the prolification of diesels which is where all those mpg numbers come from. amuricans dislike any diesel unless it's in something that weights 4 tons

ps. it's OBDII or on-board diagnostics 2 not obII
 
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Considering that Europe seem to have higher standards I wonder why ours is different...

We would if they were offered...

OBDII my bad.

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you do know that north america has different emission standards then europe; along with the prolification of diesels which is where all those mpg numbers come from. amuricans dislike any diesel unless it's in something that weights 4 tons

ps. it's OBDII or on-board diagnostics 2 not obII
 
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VWVortex.com - Passats in other countries get 78.5 mpg, interesting take on why we don't get them

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I will.

My 300 HP Car does get 30MPG so it is not too far fetched.

I was disappointed to get such answers, I really thought people here had done more.

The thing is even car makers admit that only 20% of the fuel put into your engine make HP, the rest is wasted, some burn after the power stock some burn on its way out of the engine and what is left is burned by the cat.

Problem is ONLY the gas VAPOR that is made during the compression and power stock is able to make power.

NOW IF you can convert the gas to vapor and only use what is needed for power ( the 20%) what will you get??

A 80% in savings. so 80% X say 30MPG = 150MPG?

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Cool, my 305+ hp car gets 38-42 normal driving, 43-46 on the highway. No vapor or hydrogen or anything.

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The 35 MPG Camaros were sold to Australia, when the car owners here in the states talked with them they found out about the Easter egg.

I don't know if they are still in OBII ECUs only the Camaro's ECUs of the 80s.

We get cheap gas and bad MPG overseas they pay more and get better MPG.

Rich
Why does it matter about being OBDii? Can't the ECU be flashed regardless? The CTS V on here has a reflashed ECU. The mileage is okay for pure highway, it doesn't seem like its had much of an affect on the city performance- but it's been done.
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NOW your the man I want to talk with.

A) What car??

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Cool, my 305+ hp car gets 38-42 normal driving, 43-46 on the highway. No vapor or hydrogen or anything.

I feel it is the OBDII ECU that is stopping any improvment.

I have not test any OBDI ECUs as they are too old for a product but will this winter.


Why does it matter about being OBDii? Can't the ECU be flashed regardless? The CTS V on here has a reflashed ECU. The mileage is okay for pure highway, it doesn't seem like its had much of an affect on the city performance- but it's been done.
Where can I get my computer reflashed for MPG??

And thanks.

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Well I was trying to answer point by point, so bold was the only way to show a new line.

I have used it in other threads.

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