OBII Smarter than us?

[racprops]

With or without hypermilling?

Rich

[mikeyjd]

You might prefer to research this part of the site. It has some of the more out of the box thinking you seem to be desiring. The Unicorn Corral - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com

[doviatt]

Originally Posted by racprops

With or without hypermilling?

Rich

You do realize you are on a hypermiling web site, right?

I drive 55-60. Nothing extreme- little EOC down hill from my house and key off at stop lights (only 2 on my commute).

[racprops]

Figuring that out...

And aerodynamic site as well.

Got the MPGunio here and thought this site covered all kind of MPG improvements..

[doviatt]

Originally Posted by racprops

Got the MPGunio here and thought it covered all kind of MPG improvements..

Indeed it does measure the effect of the improvements. All improvements proven out are being used and suggested for a wider testing group. Rigorous testing and lots of data is all that is required to convince.

[pgfpro]

Originally Posted by racprops

Figuring that out...

And aerodynamic site as well.

Got the MPGunio here and thought it covered all kind of MPG improvements..

I take it your disappointed with this forum??? I wish there was a magic bean so to speak... but there isn't.

I have a OBDI ECU and I can control all the parameters and there is only so much tweaking you can do to improve on FE. I have tune OBDII ECU's (K PRO Hondata etc.) also and its the same for both.

The problem is the ICE itself. Its not the ECU's software inputs.

The next major change will be IMHO Hybrid turbo chargers with
"Motor Generator Units" running DI with very high fuel pressure's using spray piston guided technology. F1 next year's new efficiency format. F1 has already made major progress with this technology. Even then you are only talking a couple points in BTE.

After the nut behind the wheel, Aero is still the low hanging fruit with the biggest gains when it comes to FE. So some people on this forum have gone for that. Can you blame them???

[racprops]

Only for its seemly limited range of research.

Rich

Originally Posted by pgfpro

I take it your disappointed with this forum??? I wish there was a magic bean so to speak... but there isn't.

I have a OBDI ECU and I can control all the parameters and there is only so much tweaking you can do to improve on FE. I have tune OBDII ECU's (K PRO Hondata etc.) also and its the same for both.

The problem is the ICE itself. Its not the ECU's software inputs.

The next major change will be IMHO Hybrid turbo chargers with
"Motor Generator Units" running DI with very high fuel pressure's using spray piston guided technology. F1 next year's new efficiency format. F1 has already made major progress with this technology. Even then you are only talking a couple points in BTE.

After the nut behind the wheel, Aero is still the low hanging fruit with the biggest gains when it comes to FE. So some people on this forum have gone for that. Can you blame them???

[shovel]

This is the funniest bunch of chatter I've read so far today

Let's talk more about how automakers could totally make 200mpg, sellable cars but choose not to.

[mikeyjd]

Originally Posted by shovel

This is the funniest bunch of chatter I've read so far today

Let's talk more about how automakers could totally make 200mpg, sellable cars but choose not to.

It's cus the government won't let them.

[Fat Charlie]

It's about planned obsolescence. They collude to advance mpg only within narrow limits, agreeing to only produce big gains with hybrids and awkward looking bodies. The idea is to allow continual incremental improvements, selling more new cars every year.