Open discussion on using TC-W3 oil as an additive

[radioranger]

I dont know if there is any thread about this but the improved FE with lower oil levels may be safely done if you add an accumulator to the oil system , also helps with cold start up because engine is pre oiled before start up so fire it up and go . Moroso makes a 1.5 quart unit , easy to add on most cars, just put a tee fitting on oil sender fitting and run hose to tank, if you put in a ball valve at tank you can pre oil the motor, < I had one on the mustang 302 I used to race and you can run 1/2 quart less oil as the tank holds 1 1/2 more, so you have a engine spinning through less oil and a pressurized quart in reserve for backcup or turbo cool down and pre oil if you remember to shut off the tank before shut down, under 100$

[WesternStarSCR]

Well, winter been pretty cold so far in Detroit, and I am doing around 23 to 26 mpg, which is good for the cold. No oil consumption like I typically see in the malibu, but van still does.

I am going to keep at it since everything seems to be on the positive side, mostly anecdotal at this point.

[RH77]

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961

... the top of the piston where the rings seal the combustion chamber from the rest of the engine...there is a lot of friction and wear. This is due to the nasty products of combustion and to the fact that due to the reciprocal nature of an engine...the pistons spends a good bit of time near the top of it's stroke. Also...most engines are lubed from below...from oil splash off the crank...not from the top.

This results in RING STICTION....an issue that a top lube can help.

If you've ever rebuilt an engine....you will know all about CYLINDER TAPER and the dreaded TOP RIDGE.

After thinking about possible ways to quantify top-end lubricity (and consequently not really noting anything), one unrelated look under the hood sparked an idea that needs verification...

For a few years, I have been using a PCV condensate "catch" container, to condense and collect the blow-by/oil mix, before it makes a trip to the manifold to be burned and/or gunk up the works.

Thread link with pic.

Could the collected volume be an objective measurement of improved ring seal, or would the additive hypothetically prevent further wear, but on a long-term basis?

RH77

[radioranger]

the catch can idea sounds great, I may try to fab one of these for the ranger and the escort, good way to monitor blow by contaminates and amount, the head on the ranger was cut thus if I use the tcw I have to run high test gas, the escort seems to like it but havent run through the first tank yet, its rust free so dont use it in the winter much .

[mcrews]

I had put one on the 02 Infiniti Q45 several yrs ago. mainly because it was inexpensive and seemed 'productive'. (sorry....no aba testing)
But I would dump it every couple of weeks.

[tony_2018]

UPDATE people, I want answers. I might try this with my honda, not now though but definitely in the summer.

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by tony_2018

UPDATE people, I want answers. I might try this with my honda, not now though but definitely in the summer.

hummmmm....

your ASKING right?

And "update" from when???? this thread is maybe 4 months old and posts continually????/

[RobertISaar]

well, here are my experiences thus far(in a 92 ranger 2.3/5 speed):

total TC-W3 oil used: 140mL(4.7oz), so i've used it with roughly 23.5 gallons of fuel. according to the original sources, this MAY not be enough to see all of the benefits yet(since they recommended 2 full tanks, i think, and the average F-body/corvette has somewhere around a 16-18 gallon tank IIRC).

what i've seen so far:

fuel consumption: no idea. this truck never gets put through the same route/conditions twice, so my difference in fuel economy is never going to be able to be measured.

idle stability: seems to be better after using TC-W3... then again, got even better after changing out some really nasty oil in the crankcase for some proper 5W-30, so, likely a small effect.

was there anything else that was being targeted for review?

i can also be certain that this truck now requires less throttle to maintain a given speed... i can't feel it in my foot, but due to this trucks exhaust having fallen off immediately ahead of the cat, there is a noticable difference in volume when maintaining 55MPH, for example...

so, it's certainly doing something... from the way it feels, it's something good. i really need to try this out on one of my vehicles that i can grab data from... see if it's messing with fuel trims, knock sensitivity, etc...

[tony_2018]

I'm very interested in how this would work on v-tec-e engines. So far I only heard that Marvel Mystery Oil does the trick to help get lean burn mode in better so that you can get better gas mileage. I already started using that and keeping records of gas mileage and even checked my tires as well, 40psi. Was getting around 33mpg on an auto, 40psi tires, kept the throttle very lightly but in order for me to gauge that I will need a vac gauge. But for now all I can do is keep the speed consistent, same rpm at all times, NO CRUISE CONTROL as this will rev/lower the rpms during inclines/declines.

[mcrews]

do you have a scanguage? you need a scangauge.

see the first link in my sig.