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 04-22-2019, 07:22 PM #3441 (permalink) Master EcoModder     Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: northwest of normal Posts: 27,452 Thanks: 7,703 Thanked 8,524 Times in 7,014 Posts EVTV have a formula for energy usage [citation needed] that involves vehicle weight times two other factors. The chart uses Cx, not Cd or CdA. That could be power required per square foot of frontal area but probably not. A Volkhart Sagitta V-2 had 25hp (gas) and would do 90mph with a sub-0.20 Cd but it was (very) small. __________________ . .Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster ____________________ History is a warning for the future -- Dr. John Campbell
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 04-23-2019, 11:10 AM #3442 (permalink) Somewhat crazed     Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal Posts: 4,027 Thanks: 461 Thanked 1,096 Times in 967 Posts Diyelectric uses a rule of thumb that kinda goes: weight in pounds divided by ten roughly equals power required to move car in average watt hours. __________________ casual notes from the underground:There are some "experts" out there that in reality don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
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 04-23-2019, 06:29 PM #3443 (permalink) EcoModding Lurker   Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: France Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks for your contributions Freebeard and Piotrsko. So I see that my calculation seems to give something between the two examples that you gave As you know, the motor consumption will be very variable depending on the instantaneous speed of the car. In my case, the usage that I have in mind would be a car running less than 100 miles per day, with a average speed of 15 to 20 MPH. My idea is that, thanks to this low speed, I should not have an heavy consumption (confer the calculation I put in my previous post), and also I hope to be able to drive 100 miles with no more than 15 KWH... But I don't know if this goal can really be reached... Anyway, what about the plans and schematics of the Paul&Sabrina's AC Controler ? Do you know where I could find out these ressources ?
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 Originally Posted by metallica Hello Piotrsko ! I calculated that with a 25 KW motor, I could move a medium sized car at this speed (60 MPH). I give you here some estimation that I calculated... Maybe someone can have an opinion about these numbers.
Your calculation is correct. I can provide real life fact also. My 28kW motor is able to get my 1200Kg Mazda MX3 to 180km/h speed.

That can be because the motor rating is actually continuous 1h rating. Motor can drain 80kW if i push it hard. I am not sure how much of that goes to the wheels, but it is enough my car is quite nimble.

Highway hill climb requires some 35kW to 45kW power at 110km/h.... depends on the grade.

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 Originally Posted by arber333 Your calculation is correct. I can provide real life fact also. My 28kW motor is able to get my 1200Kg Mazda MX3 to 180km/h speed. That can be because the motor rating is actually continuous 1h rating. Motor can drain 80kW if i push it hard. I am not sure how much of that goes to the wheels, but it is enough my car is quite nimble. Highway hill climb requires some 35kW to 45kW power at 110km/h.... depends on the grade.

Hello arber333,

Thank you for your contribution, it interests me a lot to know these results based on a concrete case. I note these results, they are useful for me to evaluate the pertinence of my table of values. I will also try to improve this table to better take into account other parameters. It seems to me that my current calculations are a little too approximate

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 06-09-2019, 10:42 PM #3447 (permalink) PaulH     Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town) Posts: 3,832 Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000 Thanks: 1,368 Thanked 1,202 Times in 765 Posts Hello! We had everything we owned stolen back in April, but I am gradually trying to get stuff again. I would say in a month or 2. Here's some info about it: https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/1116384378366640128 __________________ kits and boards
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 Originally Posted by MPaulHolmes Hello! We had everything we owned stolen back in April, but I am gradually trying to get stuff again. I would say in a month or 2. Here's some info about it: https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/1116384378366640128
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Will send some cash tonight

Is there anything .. that can be replaced ... that you can't replace locally?

Were your backups recent for code, board schematics, etc? My last copy was quite a while ago

Did you lose any banking info/passwords/etc with the laptop?
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 06-11-2019, 07:06 PM #3449 (permalink) PaulH     Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town) Posts: 3,832 Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000 Thanks: 1,368 Thanked 1,202 Times in 765 Posts Fortunately I had the laptop in our other car. I have been buying some motors, and leaf/volt controllers. Someone in Canada did a 3d model of a coupling for the 2 leaf motors and then I got the part that holds the 2 motors together rigidly, and he's still working on the part that will hold the shafts together, then I can test them at full load. I'll be teaching middle school starting in August, since it will be a little while before I can sell the boards again. Oh yes, we lost all of our banking information and passwords. I had just gotten a \$1300 ARM programmer with the trace feature just a few days before moving. Yep, they took that too. haha not annoying at all. I just thought it was towed the next morning. Then I saw broken glass where the driver side window was, and just thought, um... well, sometimes there's just broken glass in parking lots. ya, i'm sure everything is fine. lol __________________ kits and boards Last edited by MPaulHolmes; 06-11-2019 at 07:11 PM..
 06-13-2019, 12:39 PM #3450 (permalink) EcoModding Lurker   Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: California Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts I'm happy to see you are back "in the game"!! Looking forward to getting back to work on the controller whenever you are ready, though I might just have to get a Leaf motor (instead of the AC51 I have now) since everyone is moving in that direction anyway.

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