Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-30-2008, 05:48 PM   #381 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919

Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi
90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
Yes, exactly like that, is what I meant to do.

__________________
"ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 11-30-2008, 08:22 PM   #382 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
order99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newport NC
Posts: 237
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 22 Posts
MPaulHolmes-

I've got an idea for a power boost-a partial Baja conversion. It's time-consuming, but the Kit's about $700 last I checked, less than another battery string-and the less weight you haul, the more power you get!

I have a neighbor who's just starting a VW EV of his own, a 96V to start with, and has graciously allowed me to be his part-time Padawan. The first step I recommended(following the Engine removal and cleaning) was to lose as much Chassis weight as possible. So we've turned it into a 2 seater, enabling a more even spread to the Battery trays and better weight distribution, and we're also in the process of making a semi-Baja of it. The nose will be reduced to half-size, all four fenders are gone and the engine cover also gone, with the Bay trimmed a bit. Since we have some floor rust we'll cut the whole thing out from pedal to just behind the front seats, leaving the Steel behind that for the Batts.

The nose and fenders will be replaced with the Fiberglass ones with the Baja kit, the Floorpans with Fiberglass replacements and the front seats will be replaced with lighter, smaller ones-I don't know where he got them, but they're comfy! Between the fiberglass and the seats we're at least 300lbs under when we began, that's not counting the engine, clutch or exhaust either...

In a normal Baja kit, one would finish with a jacked-up frame, oversized tires, an exposed engine bay with a protective cage and a redesigned exhaust system. In our case though, the frame remains at standard height, no cage and i'm in the process of forming a Mini-cover from Coroplast, covering it with two layers of Fiberglass when i've got the design just right and affixing it to the steel. Due to the lessened nose and tail, and the expanded space behind the front seats, the Electrics will be as follows-two Batteries in the nose, two in the engine box with the Motor, four over the back axle and all the bundled Electronics in front of that for a balanced load. The original Starter Battery will be replaced by a Deep-cycle matching the others but on its own circuit for the lights etc(my neighbor plans on a 12V charger per battery, so it will charge with the same cord).

The we grab some slightly thinner tires, and my part's done. Afterwards I just sit back and watch-and learn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2008, 08:42 PM   #383 (permalink)
EV test pilot
 
bennelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oconomowoc, WI, USA
Posts: 4,435

Electric Cycle - '81 Kawasaki KZ440
90 day: 334.6 mpg (US)

S10 - '95 Chevy S10
90 day: 30.48 mpg (US)

Electro-Metro - '96 Ben Nelson's "Electro-Metro"
90 day: 129.81 mpg (US)

The Wife's Car - Plug-in Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
90 day: 78.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 658 Times in 384 Posts
Order99,

You interested in starting your own thread on here with any more info, photos, etc. of the project you are assisting on?

It sounds interesting!
__________________


300mpg.org Learn how to BUILD YOUR OWN ELECTRIC CAR CHEAP
My YouTube Videos
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2008, 09:30 PM   #384 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
order99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newport NC
Posts: 237
Thanks: 9
Thanked 40 Times in 22 Posts
Right now the only thing we have is a cut-up VW, a pile of Fiberglass panels and a filthy garage, but i'll post a few pics once we have something worth shooting. This will probably be next month when the forklift motor shows up-my neighbor's old employer is scrapping out a forklift and steaming it for him. Wish MY old Bosses were that nice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2008, 10:04 PM   #385 (permalink)
Losing the MISinformation
 
Intrigued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern Missouri
Posts: 393

Quad Cam - '00 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
Last 3: 25.94 mpg (US)
Thanks: 15
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Order99, PULEEEZE do pictures!!! Start at daylight tomorrow!!! Before and After is important for the rest of us to understand what happened.

Start your own thread, by all means!!! I'm just getting to where I can stand to watch commercials about what Oprah has on this week, for crying out loud!!!
__________________


The brake pedal is my enemy. The brake pedal is my enemy. The brake pedal...
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2008, 10:32 PM   #386 (permalink)
PaulH
 
MPaulHolmes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town)
Posts: 3,831

Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000
Thanks: 1,367
Thanked 1,115 Times in 730 Posts
Intrigued is right!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Intrigued View Post
Start your own thread, by all means!!! I'm just getting to where I can stand to watch commercials about what Oprah has on this week, for crying out loud!!!
Intrigued is right! It sounds like you guys are doing something very different and interesting! Pictures of how you are destroying the car is good!!! You should read some of my crappy posts! Sometimes all I have to say is that Oprah is a fat cult leader!

We need more people with actual content!!! Please!

I'm not going to do much to pimp out my current car. It's a $40 piece of crap, but I love the idea of modding a car to make it lighter for my next conversion! No picture is too insignificant! Get Er' Done!
__________________
kits and boards
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2008, 11:09 PM   #387 (permalink)
Losing the MISinformation
 
Intrigued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern Missouri
Posts: 393

Quad Cam - '00 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
Last 3: 25.94 mpg (US)
Thanks: 15
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
You mean like this???

Quote:
Originally Posted by MPaulHolmes View Post
The batteries are in. It was like lifting 1,000,000 Kenyan refugees or one quarter Oprah getting those batteries in there. They are really heavy.
...I was okay until I saw the new signature. Now I can't stop laughing...and I'm seriously thinking about wearing my "Nuke the Whales" t-shirt tomorrow...just NOT IN PUBLIC!!!

You are seriously affecting me, Holmes! I can't even watch the stupid commercials any more!!!
__________________


The brake pedal is my enemy. The brake pedal is my enemy. The brake pedal...
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 02:06 AM   #388 (permalink)
PaulH
 
MPaulHolmes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town)
Posts: 3,831

Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000
Thanks: 1,367
Thanked 1,115 Times in 730 Posts
Intrigued! I am going to ask my wife to get me a Nuke The Whales T-shirt for Christmas. I'm excited!

My African American wife gave me permission to ask, "What is Oprah's ..."
(WIFE EDIT).

I need a good project that doesn't cost any money. I still want to make a reasonably priced controller. I know I can do it! I need an oscilloscope, and an Atmel programmer that can transfer the program from the computer to the microcontroller chip (i'm going to use the AtMega16). Ian from Zero Emissions Vehicles Australia just finished a 500 or 600 amp 156v controller. The parts cost $400 Australian. I have gone through much of the process without actually building it. In other words, I've done almost nothing! But I am mostly done with the software for the controller. Temperature shutdown, high pedal lockout, etc... I need a mill too. I will use 200v components. I'll make it as kitlike as possible and help people make it for free. I bet a basic 144v 400 amp controller is doable for like $300 in parts (or less? We'll see.). It's one of the things on my list. It's going to be tough having 3 whole weeks of NO MONEY and no work! What a horrible combination!

Next quarter I'm teaching 3 classes! So, I'll maybe have enough money if my wife get's subbing work to get an oscilloscope and I'll get started on it. I might make the frequency like 1 or 2 kHz to cut down on switching losses. I'll have to figure out how to mask the annoying sound..
__________________
kits and boards

Last edited by MPaulHolmes; 12-28-2008 at 02:52 PM.. Reason: Oprah slander removed at request of wife.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 10:16 AM   #389 (permalink)
Losing the MISinformation
 
Intrigued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern Missouri
Posts: 393

Quad Cam - '00 Oldsmobile Intrigue GX
Last 3: 25.94 mpg (US)
Thanks: 15
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Get one of those mini-mills from Grizzly when they're on sale. If you're close to a town where one of their brick-and-mortars is, get a display model at a tent sale there. My sister got one at a tent sale and does all sorts of little wooden bits with it for crafts. Surely there's one that will destroy metal parts...

Be sure to pick a frequency for your controller that'll mess with all of the neighbor's wireless systems. Then, when they actually step outside of their houses to see what's going on, and breathe real air and see real live green grass, (white snow?) they'll see your car, and maybe, just maybe, think deep thoughts like "hey, I should do that to help save the environment - and my wallet!!!"


Poor burnt angels... maybe what the world needs is a better mouse trap!!!
__________________


The brake pedal is my enemy. The brake pedal is my enemy. The brake pedal...

Last edited by Intrigued; 12-02-2008 at 05:02 PM.. Reason: Just following his lead... :-)
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008, 12:32 PM   #390 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NorCal
Posts: 451
Thanks: 1
Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MPaulHolmes View Post
By the way, I still need to fix the DANG super beetle shimmy, then it's on the freeway!!!!!
Hmmm... for some reason I thought you had a standard beetle <not a super>

If you car has McPhereson front struts, all the "curved windsheild" supers with a horizontally stored spare tire are mac strut. If that's what you have Paul, then fixing the common SB shimmy is usually a matter of replacing the pivot at the top of the strut... but I've never changed one myself, but it's common.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
cheap, light-weight EV battery? eta Fossil Fuel Free 5 05-15-2009 01:00 AM
Video: ForkenCycle! (Dirt cheap forklift based motorbike conversion) MetroMPG Fossil Fuel Free 34 02-26-2009 12:58 PM
Escort Wagon EV Conversion on eBay XFi Fossil Fuel Free 3 08-27-2008 05:20 PM
Honda VFR EV conversion (In progress) SVOboy Fossil Fuel Free 31 07-21-2008 11:21 AM
Practical? Possible? Taurus EV Conversion WaxyChicken Fossil Fuel Free 30 01-17-2008 11:12 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com