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Old 05-05-2008, 11:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh wow, someone from a place close by on the forum LOL
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There has got to be a list of whos who and whos using what fuel source, ect..

Anyone?

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Old 05-05-2008, 11:29 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yeah we're way out here in the boonies eh, lol .
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Old 05-05-2008, 11:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I purchase all my fuel from Shell about 95% of the time. I always like Shell fuel and never had any complaints about it.
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Old 05-05-2008, 11:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Frankenstipe;23610]So which is the least Evil of the companies then?
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It's in the article, under "Top of the barrel"

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I just checked BP's site and I guess Arco and AmPm use their gas which I did not know because I always heard Arco had really crappy gas. I've been using Chevron since the beginning of the year, I used Shell before that for a few months. I haven't noticed a difference but that doesn't mean there isn't one.

What do most of you think is the best quality from the least Evil company?

Also what exactly is the difference between the brands of gas?
The difference between the gas itself? Nothing... There are quite a few gasoline distribution points (where tanker trucks are filled) - but only a few are actually brand owned and dedicated. The difference is in the additive packages/detergents added to the tanker during fill up. But, even buying "crap" gas is safe - you're not going to destroy an engine in short order as was during the gas crunch -- the EPA has minimum detergent requirements that won't allow this to happen.

If you're worried you're not getting enough cleaning agents in your fuel... add them every 6 months, buy a bottle of whatever additive you want (I think shell even sell their own v-power stuff as does chevron with their techron chemicals)... It'll be just as effective and much cheaper.

That said - NO additive gives better mileage than another. This is why we don't see any station advertising that their gas increases fuel economy. They may say a clean engine gets better economy - but you can't get cleaner than clean, it's not the additive increasing efficiency Imagine the killing that one brand would make if they could say "increases fuel economy by 10%."

I mentioned it before... But I buy from Murphy oil at the same pump... It's the cheapest (or second cheapest) around, it's nearby and I've yet to have had any troubles

If your engine has predictable trouble between brands of gas... I'd probably sell the car... It's a terrible thing for an engineer to design something that won't work in all tolerance configurations despite things being in spec.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I purchase all my fuel from Shell about 95% of the time. I always like Shell fuel and never had any complaints about it.
Sunoco was my #1 choice followed by Shell out East. Now it's Quiktrip and BP or Shell in the Plains...

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Sounds like most of the poluting is done before the gas ever gets to the car.

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I guess I just figured there was a lot more difference between the companies and what they used in their gas or where they got it.

Meh, guess I'll just buy from ARCO (BP) from now on since they seem to do the least amount of evil stuff, no Sunoco's in our area.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:20 PM   #38 (permalink)
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A friend of mine works for GE at a Valero Refinery, he sells/ mixes additives for various things, water, corrosion, and a few other things.. Anyway he sells 4~6 times as much per gallon of Chevron than any other. Make of it what you might, but one I found that out I buy Chevron fuel for anything that will sit for long periods of time.
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Smile a whole new prospective on ethanol and biodiesel

After reading all this, I wonder what % of the total footprint from oil to cars happens before the gas ever gets to the engine. That gives me a whole new prospective on ethanol and biodiesel that can be produced close to where it is needed.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:42 PM   #40 (permalink)
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F the Sierra club, and corn farmers too. Give me 100% pure and uncut gasoline. That's right folks, good old E0.

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