Pick Your Poison - Whose gas to buy?

[SVOboy]

It merged with Amoco, so I don't know what that means in terms of where it's owned, but Beyond Petroleum is just an advertising bit, the name hasn't changed.

[RH77]

Originally Posted by SVOboy

It merged with Amoco, so I don't know what that means in terms of where it's owned, but Beyond Petroleum is just an advertising bit, the name hasn't changed.

BP actually absorbed several companies, of which, included Amoco, which included the Standard Oil and "Gulf" brands. Standard Oil of Ohio was based in Cleveland, Ohio -- complete with a new skyscraper to rival the existing Cleveland skyline in the mid-80's: SOHIO Tower. The company was a result of the anti-trust legislation of 1911 to break up Standard Oil. It goes back that far... Outside of Ohio, it was named "Boron".

The merger was years in the making, however. Most of the source was from Alaskan oilfields -- so that's an interesting caveat as it was later shut down after a disgraceful environmental record (Wiki BP). When production reached a certain level, BP pounced on SOHIO and Amoco's sources. Foolish venture as that dried-up. Over the years, a tarnished safety record of refinery accidents further drove the brand into the need for "Greenwashing". I'll let that viewpoint in your hands, as the consumer.

The large, newly named "BP America Building" was vacated for a location elsewhere. More jobs to leave the State of Ohio. British Invasion in Cleveland. The American Oil Co. was fully taken-over, including its familiar storefronts and brands. The familiar red, white and blue oval logo and torch was replaced with gold and green BP stations.

Pick your poison, indeed.

More info through Wiki...

RH77, Ohio Native

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by RH77

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The merger was years in the making, however. Most of the source was from Alaskan oilfields -- so that's an interesting caveat as it was later shut down after a disgraceful environmental record (Wiki BP). When production reached a certain level, BP pounced on SOHIO and Amoco's sources. Foolish venture as that dried-up. Over the years, a tarnished safety record of refinery accidents further drove the brand into the need for "Greenwashing". I'll let that viewpoint in your hands, as the consumer.

Pick your poison, indeed.

More info through Wiki...

RH77, Ohio Native

The records not that great in Texas but I'm sure it's up to par with the rest of the oil companies.

Eighth largest polluter
The refinery also ranks as the eighth largest polluter in the state of Texas. It released 5.1 million pounds of pollutants in 2002, according to the latest data, including some chemicals that are known carcinogens and cause other serious health effects. About 30,000 people live within a three-mile radius of the refinery.

Wednesday's explosion was the deadliest in the Houston area since 1990, when an explosion killed 17 people at the Arco Chemical Co. in Channelview.

And Here.

BP refinery deaths top industry in U.S.
Fatalities 10 times those of Exxon Mobil

[dremd]

My best friend works for BP on Thunderhorse Tech

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder_Horse

I can say that they are very very serious about emissions. The platform is the first to use electric heating for the majority of their processes (easier to clean up emissions on a gas turbine than an open flame), as well as heat recovery on damn near everything (esp. Turbines) to be used as heat for the next lower temp requirement onboard. They also treat him very well (from what I understand). They take safety very seriously, but for some reason things seam to fail often, They blew a 36" pig port off at 20,000 psi, Basically sunk, put to many sacrificial anodes on sub sea pipes and they rusted away, laid a cable on a live German Torpedo, and a few other things. However as far as I know there have been no injuries.

Regardless an amazing piece of engineering

Oh and they are the only people around here that sell 55 Cetane D2 :-) TDI runs SOOO Smooth on the stuff :-)

That being said; if There was Reasonably priced Bio in town (<$4 a gallon) I'd buy that 95% of the time.

[Chris D.]

Originally Posted by Yaristock

I only buy from Bp for multiple reasons
1. My Yaris pings on anything else
2. American oil company(I like knowing my money goes to our economy)
3. They are everywhere
4. People as Shell are mean and there are no Conoco around me

Nothing stays within our economy anymore, you forget about foreign investers!

[hvatum]

Originally Posted by dremd

My best friend works for BP on Thunderhorse Tech

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder_Horse

I can say that they are very very serious about emissions. The platform is the first to use electric heating for the majority of their processes (easier to clean up emissions on a gas turbine than an open flame), as well as heat recovery on damn near everything (esp. Turbines) to be used as heat for the next lower temp requirement onboard. They also treat him very well (from what I understand). They take safety very seriously, but for some reason things seam to fail often, They blew a 36" pig port off at 20,000 psi, Basically sunk, put to many sacrificial anodes on sub sea pipes and they rusted away, laid a cable on a live German Torpedo, and a few other things. However as far as I know there have been no injuries.

Regardless an amazing piece of engineering

Cool! Not too surprising that things will go wrong on such a large platform.

"Oh and they are the only people around here that sell 55 Cetane D2 :-) TDI runs SOOO Smooth on the stuff :-)"

Interesting, I'm going out to pick up my TDI tomorrow. Don't think I've ever seen a place that had 55 Cetane.

Not many choices for me anyway. Once I get it, the only station near me that sells diesel is a local joint.

[Daox]

My Paseo rarely sees anything but BP. From what I hear its the best avaliable company to buy from in my area.

[dremd]

Actually last time I went to BP for D2 it said 51, in the past it said 55 Cetane. . . . . . Nearest station with D2 is about 50 miles away. I'd like to try some Shell GTL whenever they start selling the stuff . . . .

STILL need to get the BioDiesel Processor up and running.

[toomuch]

http://www.toptiergas.com/
I like to go by these stations, with the only one in my area being shell. Plus the Shell near me is anywhere from -1 to 4 cents more than the thrift gas stations.

[Frankenstipe]

So which is the least Evil of the companies then?

I just checked BP's site and I guess Arco and AmPm use their gas which I did not know because I always heard Arco had really crappy gas. I've been using Chevron since the beginning of the year, I used Shell before that for a few months. I haven't noticed a difference but that doesn't mean there isn't one.

What do most of you think is the best quality from the least Evil company?

Also what exactly is the difference between the brands of gas?