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Old 10-01-2008, 02:55 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Nowadays, I refuse to fill up at Citgo. Speedway, Phillips 66, BP, Shell are in my area, but Speedway gets my normal business. Citgo lost me when I learned the President of Venezuala(sp) actually bragged in a news conference about how he was taking American money and using it to hurt Americans. (News articles out there, just dont have link in question) I figured it he wanted to brag, he did not have to get my money.
Now for the Columbia, well the company I work for has us stop at TA, Petro, Pilot most often, with a few stops at Love's, Sapp Brothers, Flying J, and I think one other tiny offbrand place. Have not had the time yet to find out which fuels are being used where.

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Old 10-01-2008, 08:57 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Citgo lost me when I learned the President of Venezuala(sp) actually bragged in a news conference about how he was taking American money and using it to hurt Americans. (News articles out there, just dont have link in
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:50 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Here is one basic link I have recovered, I know there are others out there since this is a new one to me.

USATODAY.com - Has Citgo become a political tool for Hugo Chvez?

Another link found, not as much info, but in line with what I am remembering.

Will Citgo suffer Chavez backlash? - U.S. business - MSNBC.com

Right now most of what I am finding are groups bashing and calling out of the boycott. Sorry I dont have the actual news link I refered to, but hope this gives you an idea of what I meant.
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:45 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Thank you very much for the links unforgiven.

I have never seen any thing that Chavez has done as anything but reactionary to the Bush administration, and the majority of the press about Chavez as simply Bush Propaganda.

IMHO the majority of his doings have bettered the lives of the majority in Venezuela; is he perfect, No, could he be a much better leader than ours? Maybe.

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Among his first acts was the launching of Plan Bolivar 2000, which included road building, housing construction, and mass vaccination.[25] Chávez also halted planned privatizations of, among others, the national social security system, aluminum industry holdings, and the oil sector.[26] Chávez also overhauled the formerly lax tax collection and auditing system—especially regarding major corporations and landholders.
Sounds like a good plan to action to me.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:09 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I wager that some of what he has done has benefits for his country, and himself. Some of the economic deeds to help his people are a good thing. Now the overhaul of the tax collection and audit system... well, please look carefully into that. Sounds a little suspicious to me, especially in regards to how he has placed certain people in certain positions. My basic point to my prior comment is a simple one.... I feel this way, and that is why I chose to not support sales to that company. I am a mere atomized droplet in the swirling mists of civilization that fuels up, so I doubt I am missed by thier sales department and income trackers.
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Just to clarify; I'm not telling you to go out and buy Citgo fuel; I don't and there is a station about 3 miles away from where I am sitting right now. I'm just saying that he is not the devil that the US has made him out to be. Of course there have been losers in his economic programs (mostly us based energy companies) but his people are overall better off; that is what socialism is about.
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(chuckles) So not getting into the socialism discussion.

Heh, well if you were trying to tell me to go to Citgo, I would just politely listen, and then NOT do it. Citgo here is about .3 miles from the house by car, a long walk across the lawn for the shortcut.
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actually ''beyond petroleum'' is a marketing thing, the names still ''british petroleum''... but no matter
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I fill up at Quiktrip (Tier-1), which I suppose is more of a Central Plains brand (also located in Georgia and Arizona). AFAIK, it's sourced and refined in Oklahoma and Texas, so transport costs are less than the competition.

Just this week, 87-Regular was $1.29 at my local pump. It's competitively priced, but the price point is something that I'll likely never understand (or learn the truth with any brand -- separate thread).

We have a distribution center nearby for the convenience store items, which employs several employees. If I have to buy fuel, it seems to be the one that benefits my region the most, and offers a good blend of additives in the fuel.

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Old 12-13-2008, 12:24 AM   #50 (permalink)
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BP user here for a few reasons...

Their equipment is better maintained than most of the other brands.
The stations are larger and have a higher turnover thus the chances of getting old fuel are less.
They are active supporters of a solar panels programme here.

The actual fuel is , so far as I can tell , about the same as anyone else's.

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