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Old 05-26-2011, 04:26 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:49 AM   #162 (permalink)
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Oh, I forgot to mention: As I posted earlier, I took the rear skirts off for the trip to Slovenia. I guessed correctly that they are the real attention getters: I did over 2600 km and almost no rubberneckers! I only noticed maybe 2-3 people having a longer look at the kammback, but no obnoxious passing-then-waiting-to-be-passed-only-to-pass-again, and not a single picture taken! Aerowise, the lack of skirts didn't hit FE noticibly, since this tank will get over 1500 km with mostly highway speeds (well, if 90-100 km/h can be called "highway" speeds - for some they are city speeds).

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Well, I was kinda starting to suspect this, or at least that you're from one of the neighboring countries. You wouldn't happen to be from around Warsaw, would you?
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Aerowise, the lack of skirts didn't hit FE noticibly, since this tank will get over 1500 km with mostly highway speeds
The lack of skirtst probably cost you some MPG though.

Better put them back on and get that leak fixed, 'cause I'm catching up with ya !
Without any aero mods so far.

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Old 05-29-2011, 03:47 PM   #164 (permalink)
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The lack of skirtst probably cost you some MPG though.
I'll have to find some time to test just the skirts, not in tandem with the kammback. For now it's very temping to be in stealth mode Maybe I'll keep them off for city driving, until the next long distance trip?

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Better put them back on and get that leak fixed, 'cause I'm catching up with ya !
Without any aero mods so far.
Wait until I fill up and this 1500+km tank gets entered into the fuel log!
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:40 PM   #165 (permalink)
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PW - do you have more detailed pics on the seperation you did of the intake, intercooler and so on behind the grill please ? I'm trying to get my head round whether I need to open the front grill block or not - warm intake or cool ?

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I'm trying to get my head round whether I need to open the front grill block or not - warm intake or cool ?
A Diesel engine wants to be warm & cosy, but it also wants to be fed cold air.
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PW - do you have more detailed pics on the seperation you did of the intake, intercooler and so on behind the grill please ? I'm trying to get my head round whether I need to open the front grill block or not - warm intake or cool ?
Here is the plastic cover which goes over the top of the rad/IC. You can see the hole I covered under the intake scoop and the plastic tab I put in the IC side of the upper grille:

Without plastic cover:

Top view:

Close up of the top of the intercooler. Notice the black OEM plastic wall on the left.

Looking down you see the OEM bottom cover:

Close-up of the IC's grille block. I recently added an extra opening on each side, but I plan to make the openings taller:

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Thanks - that helps. I couldn't quite figure out what was added but I see the plastic cover in pic 1 and removed in 2 was OEM ? I'll need to add something similar to cover the entire section between the radiator top panel and the grill.

Did you block the IC cover for aero or for heat ?
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Yes, that big black plastic cover on top of the rad and IC is OEM, and a pain to remove! What I added was a small square of black plastic under the intake. This can still be seen in pic #2.
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Did you block the IC cover for aero or for heat ?
If you mean the lower grille block, then for both. I open the IC side once the coolant temperature reaches ~70°C. Aerowise it's part of the whole grille block which covers all sorts of nooks and crannies, plus the LED DRLs.
The little plastic tab in the corner of the upper grille (pic #1) is to direct some air from the radiator to the IC.
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If you mean the lower grille block, then for both. I open the IC side once the coolant temperature reaches ~70°C.
Blocking off the IC seems to only be a viable option if you have adjustable shutters like you do.

Without these adjustable shutters, wouldn't you want the IC to get as much fresh air as possible, so it cools the air coming from the turbo as good as it can ?

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