10-13-2010, 10:58 AM
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I agree with Piwoslaw.
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10-13-2010, 01:56 PM
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Agreed. It's admirable that you're using WVO, but you're still burning the same amount of energy, and producing the same amount of emissions. Claiming a MPG assuming WVO is exempt tells us nothing of the efficiency of your car, your route, or your driving techniques.
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10-13-2010, 03:01 PM
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It's simple people.
Miles per gallon.
If you use a home made fuel, or otherwise acquire it for free, that does not change the quantity of fuel consumed.
Maybe you should talk about miles per penny, if you want to game the logs because you are getting free fuel.
If I suck fuel out of totalled cars my cost changes but my mileage would be the same unless the fuel was stale and it (the mileage) dropped off.
It's a cheater way of putting yourself on top of the list.
I don't pay much attention to it anyway.
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10-13-2010, 03:51 PM
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Yes, definitely agree with the consensus... If you've got a fuel tank, then whatever fuel goes into the tank should be counted.
Plug-in hybrids are a bit more complicated, but any std ICE car is very straightforward, regardless of the fuel being used!
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10-13-2010, 03:55 PM
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So what's up with n6yvy's 2009 cobalt? Even if you are taking liberties with E85, that would only come out to maybe 350 "mpg".
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10-13-2010, 04:06 PM
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So I guess if I steal the fuel my mileage is infinite .
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10-13-2010, 05:29 PM
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Let's not forget that, despite WVO being a cleaner fuel (not CLEAN, just better than diesel), it still puts out carbon emmisions.
But i can see the difficulty of figuring mileage if you go by MPGe. The electric cars have to do this because of a lack of a gallon figure in their calculation. In the figuring of an MPG figure there is the gallon amount of WVO used. The only thing stopping an honest calculation is lack of willingness to count the gallons.
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I think you missed the point I was trying to make, which is that it's not rational to do either speed or fuel economy mods for economic reasons. You do it as a form of recreation, for the fun and for the challenge.
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01-06-2011, 07:52 PM
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I just noticed the top mileage list got pruned a bit. I'd still like to see that 240D get taken down, it is certainly NOT getting 113mpg.
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01-06-2011, 11:57 PM
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It all comes down to motive.
Do you try to get better mileage and have people celebrate your success with you or do you tweak the numbers and add "equivalent * " to make yourself look better to a bunch of folks online.
Time and again we have discussed folks lowering their combined EPA to achieve a pseudo hypermiler tag on their fuel sig. Equivalent * metrics are the same thing in reverse.
This community runs on the honor system.
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01-07-2011, 01:52 AM
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I only bring it up because the 240D I added was cut.
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