Rising Gas Prices = More Ecomodder Interest?

[hayden55]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

Everyone benefits from the roads even if you don't own a car. Everything in your house and the house itself came on a truck. Just add their costs to everything else the government does and stop trying to nickle and dime some kind of "user" fee. Why doesn't that work for say the public schools? Everyone pays because everyone benefits, kids or no kids. The roads are the same.

I'm honestly not sure what you mean but here is a good video on affordable housing and school funding.
Off topic but ill just add a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDg...heNewYorkTimes

[Isaac Zachary]

How about instead of deciding what the government should do (aka. politics) why don't we discuss how whatever the government is doing or might do will affect us (prices on electricity, gasoline, diesel fuel, hydrogen, methane, etc.) and what we can do about it (besides getting into politics) like, I don't, maybe ecomod our cars or something like that to make up for the increased price?

[freebeard]

What we learned in the 1960s (and then forgot ) was 'to fight it is to feed it'. King Canute was right. Tun you back on it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is sceptical of authority and rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy. Anarchism calls for the abolition of the state, which it holds to be unnecessary, undesirable, and harmful. As a historically left-wing movement, placed on the farthest left of the political spectrum, it is usually described alongside libertarian Marxism as the libertarian wing (libertarian socialism) of the socialist movement, and has a strong historical association with anti-capitalism and socialism.
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Anarchist schools of thought have been generally grouped into two main historical traditions, social anarchism* and individualist anarchism*, owing to their different origins, values and evolution.[65] The individualist current emphasises negative liberty in opposing restraints upon the free individual, while the social current emphasises positive liberty in aiming to achieve the free potential of society through equality and social ownership.

* ** Consider the one-dimensional left-right divide. Establish a cross axis of libertarian-authoritarian. You have four quadrants. You have the Social Democrats at lower left and anarcho-capitalists lower right.

duckduckgo.com/?q=you+might+be+an+anarchist+if... volutary association with like-minded individuals.

[Blacktree]

I can't speak for anyone else, but rising fuel prices did factor into my latest vehicle purchase. I replaced a Jetta TDI (which averaged just over 40 mpg) with a 2nd-gen Prius (which gets over 50 mpg). Fuel economy wasn't the only factor in that decision. But it did play a role.

The rising fuel prices also renewed my interest in eco-modding, and my return to this forum after a long hiatus.

[Isaac Zachary]

I still get people telling me that I should buy a pickup. Just a couple days ago I had some extended family members trying to convince me just that. Their reasoning is "you can't carry anything in a sedan," and "you can't drive a sedan in the snow." Little did they know I did a rather large remodel last year hauling materials with my Avalon and a trailer. And I've never got stuck in the snow yet in Avalon, although it was a bit difficult once to get going again up a steep icy mountain pass where a tractor trailer had jack-knifed even with my studded snows on. But that's been about the worst of it so far.

Personally I don't mind the +40mpg when my main vehicle expense is gasoline. I can't imagine spending three times what I do now.

[MetroMPG]

Welcome back, Blacktree!


For some reason, I was thinking today: what's my favourite of the many eco-cars I've owned. First thought is probably the 2000 Insight 5-speed. But I really enjoyed the 2nd gen Prius I had too.

[67-ls1]

I just filled up yesterday for $4.99/gal. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve had to commit to only driving my 66 Chevelle because it’s our most economical car.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Blacktree

Fuel economy wasn't the only factor in that decision.

What other factors did you consider?

[Blacktree]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

What other factors did you consider?

In a nutshell: Maintenance and NVH.

I was getting tired of the diesel rattle, wanted something quieter. Also, the Jetta is becoming a maintenance hog. I'm just trying to keep it on the road, but it feels like a restoration project. I already have a money pit (the BMW), don't need another one.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Well, considering the HSD system can effectively fulfill the roles of a traditional automatic transmission, it doesn't seem to be a maintenance nightmare, even though working around the battery pack may not be so inviting for someone who doesn't have much previous experiences with electronics.