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Old 09-06-2017, 10:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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In eastern NM and west Texas we have giga watt farms every where now it seems like.
The United states is a world leader in wind power production.

Having nuclear 2 nuclear plants will do it too.

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Old 09-06-2017, 03:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I do not know how efficiently coconut oil can be made, but it can be grown with saltwater.

Can we plant millions of coconut palms on shorelines?

I have read many times that mangrove forests help with hurricanes.

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I do not know how efficiently coconut oil can be made, but it can be grown with saltwater.
The problem is that coconut oil gets solid at a relatively low temperature, which would either require pre-heating to use it straight as a motor fuel or as a biodiesel feedstock. Would otherwise maybe turn into a replacement for thicker lube oils or greases (or eventually become a good feedstock to make the soap used as a base for grease). BTW coconut palms also produce sugar, so they might eventually be an effective feedstock for some alcohol (either ethanol or methanol depending on the fermentation) to be used either directly as fuel or as a reagent in the making of biodiesel.
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OMG, it's like an egg with a navel!
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Scotland’s First Minister today announced that new petrol and diesel vehicles will be phased out in Scotland by 2032 – eight years ahead of the rest of the UK. There is also to be a significant expansion in the charging network, including an Electric Highway along the A9, Scotland's longest road.
Scotland’s four biggest cities will have Low Emission Zones, banning the most polluting vehicles, by 2020. The Scottish government is already committed to one Low Emission Zones by the end of next year.
Let’s see what happens with that. Kind of goes against their North Sea Oil stance of the Independence Referendum.
Sorry, your government seems to have caught the stupid bug from ours (England, specifically the oldest recorded town (with the chubbiest recorded cretin as our MP)).
within 2 years or so there will be catalytic coatings for buildings that will get rid of nox and co pollution that can be painted on to practically any building
then you've got dual mode two/four stroke motors and the Mazda HCCI designs coming on stream.
Add to that the UK, and in that I include Scotland residential electrical system is limited to 13a at 240v or 3000w give or take.. plug in a electric car and try and make a cup of tea on the same circuit and it'll melt, not to mention how the hell so you charge someone for their electric car while living in a towerblock? assuming it doesn't spontaneously combust at 6pm on the button after someone puts their car on charge.. and precisely how many milliseconds will it take the energy companies to put the prices up by 400%?
Then there's the rare metals needed for manufacturing and the slightest problem whereby aluminium costs 4000kwh per tonne to smelt, steel 550-700kwh only over 75% more pollution required to make the materials for an average bodyshell (let alone the shaping, spot welding or roll welding (I forget the proper term) and the painting) - and that's for something the size of my little Accent..
I've not really kept up with North Sea oil, but I do know that most of the fields are mature (I did geology at uni) and the newer stuff is harder to get to too, that's actually about the only rational argument re electrics and hybrids and that's more a strategic reason than a ecological one.. ie the less we use domestically the more we can export..
The only way electric transport is a viable and (even remotely) ecological proposition is a wholely revamped electricity grid powered by thorium based generation supported by renewables, and that means providing power from start to finish - it doesn't work if we in the west are running on Thorium and the places making the stuff, doing the mining and smelting are running on the technological equivalent of a clapped out Driptroit Diesel circa 1948.. some countries are still partially reliant on steam engines built in the 1890s for local and industrial power!
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I agree with a lot of what you say, but your impression of the capacity of the domestic mains is rather Daily Mail/Guardian.
You can run a 10Kw electric shower, a 2 Kw heater (that is my bathroom described), a cooker and a kettle, no problem.
Your house will have 2x32 Amp Ring mains (2x8 Kw), a cooker circuit and a shower circuit.
A Tesla will charge overnight at 7.4 Kw.
As a retired electrical engineer let me assure you, plugging an EV in won't melt your electrics.
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Homes in the the United States typically have 100 to 200 amp service. As long as the breaker panel isn't full a electric car charger could easily be added.

The sad thing is the United states, Russia, China and India reallt don't care about global warming.
The United States pretends to care but a survey of registered voters from back in 2008 (2008 to 2010 was when global man made global warming belief peaked here) showed that really only about 20% of registered voters actually believed man made global warming is a problem and that something shoulder be done about it now.
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I thought only ten year-olds wrote that.
I misjudged my audience, I guess. It was funny to me!

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Sorry, your government seems to have caught the stupid bug from ours ...within 2 years or so there will be catalytic coatings for buildings that will get rid of nox and co pollution that can be painted on to practically any building
Surely I must be misreading this. It sounds like government is taking effective action?

Nano-scale titanium dioxide exists now. Is the two years the slow grind of bureaucracy?

Anthropogenic Global Warming is our friend, the Sun/Earth/Moon gravitational couple is driving the oncoming ICE AGE.
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Houses in the UK have a single phase, 50 Hz,supply of 230 volts with a minimum of 60A up to a maximum of 100A. Usually the supply is fused to supply a maximum of 100A, unless you are at the end of a farm track and miles from a sub station.
Our phase configuration is Star (unlike the Delta configuration used in the US) and each house is supplied off one leg of the Star and the central neutral point. You can arrange to have a three phase supply installed with the extra installation and ongoing charges that entails.
I was employed by a US company, here in the UK, and we regularly installed US equipment, so I am very familiar with the Delta configurations you have available, with 110V, 208V and 220V supplies. We sometimes had to fit Star/Delta transformers to run specialised equipment.

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