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Old 04-23-2019, 10:29 PM   #61 (permalink)
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That sounds like how I built the fence. Do you think I would be approved a permit to build with 6' girts?

In theory, I could find a relatively cheap box truck, but I would probably need to drive it up from the valley, use it to haul stuff to the dump, undo the U-bolts, set up the box in the back yard, and sell the truck.

That sounds like a weird solution!

I have been trying to price structural insulated panels, but while I find many sites for various manufacturers, I find very few places actually selling them.

This site says a 4.5-inch thick panel is R-16 and costs $162.56.

I would need eleven panels: $1,788.16. We are approaching aircrete territory, but I see fewer ways to mess up, and no theoretical catastrophic failures.

This place has 1.5-inch boards, 2", and 6.5-inch boards, but only have OSB on one side, although I could hang drywall on the inside. R-22.1, $123.95 each, and $1,363.45 for 11.

SIPs are supposed to be stronger than normal wooden frames, but Ray-core builds SIPs with normal wooden frames and claims that they are as little as half the cost of their competitors--but they do not advertise prices: https://raycore.com/sips-panels-cost-pricing/

They say a 3.5-inch wall is R-26.
Singcore by Olympia WA looks good. They say they no longer support homeowner projects but I do see some kits and things on their page and sometimes stuff shows up on Ebay from them as well.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:49 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I found that the mixing of aircrete it's not a so simple machine to built. Check this guy's explanation :

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Thanks for remembering, I was trying to think of the name.

I searched the article and found one instance of the word geopolymer
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According to the caller, the mysteries had actually been solved by Joseph Davidovits, Director of the Geopolymer Institute in St. Quentin, France, more than two decades ago.
That's the term of art. Rock is generally either sedimentary, metamorphic or igneous. Sedimentary would be easy, metamorphic would require pressure and heat (like a Cinva-Ram press?) but less than igneous which would be like a fired ceramic.

The Egyptians also made bottles out of diorite by the thousands. Not sure how they did that diorite is hard.


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I will contact Ray-core when I finally have blueprints. R-26 in a 3.5-inch wall? Yes please!

I have read a couple of times that SIPs cost 10% more than normal stud walls, but 10% more for double the R-value?

All Darc, the bamboo roof is interesting, but I am unsure how to insulate that. The guy who built the shed said he did not like Dome Gaia's foammaker, so he made his own.

Hersbird, I will read about the pyramids, but everybody knows they were landing sites for alien spacecraft. I did not see anything by Singcore on eBay, but I did see this $10,000 tiny house: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Grey-Tiny-H...gAAOSwfchcq7JJ

I am unsure how it qualifies as a house. It is so small that they do not list the dimensions, but it has Singcore walls!
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Elon Musk said that he would make interlocking earth block from the rock excavated from his tunnels: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon...s-homes-2018-3
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There are molds for lego like aircrete bricks :





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He made interlocking bricks for a raised garden, but I would not want to use aircrete for a structure until it could be approved for a permit. It seems that his shed passed because it had studs, but a design with 2x4s instead of two metal studs would save hundreds of dollars, although that still seems like a fraction of the cost.

The problem is that you cannot just use one 2x4 per panel because you need to attach them. Would they approve two 1x4s nailed together? Wouldn't two 1x4s be thinner than one 2x4? Supposedly a 1" is board is 3/4" thick, but everything 2"+ is half an inch smaller.



Supposedly earth blocks meet code, but I would need to check first. Right now it looks like neither of these are my best option.
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I like those cylindrical blocks. Maybe with two (pegs/ears?) instead of one. That's a lot of sheemetal forms. If the plywood was pressed down from the top, I think the form could be stripped earlier and you'd need fewer. Else extrude a simple cylinder and CNC the (pegs/ears?) while the block is still green.

All Darc — Do you know how they slide the pipes out to release the blocks from the mold? You could do something similar with a vertical hole through the blocks that Xist showed but half the rebar would be exposed.
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I searched Craigslist for sheds and found this:

10' 20' 30' 40' 45' Storage Shipping Containers - MAGAT Patriots ONLY

$2,850 for a Grade A Cargoworthy container.

$100 for Turnip supporters. That would be difficult.

Just to clarify, that is a discount, not a bounty.

"Liberals pay 25% more. just kidding, liberals don't pay more because I don't want to do business with a single one of you."

Much of the post and twenty-one pictures are pretty angry.

"ALL NRA Life members get a $50 discount on each container purchased. If you're not an NRA member and want to become one, then I will discount your unit if you buy an NRA membership or gift one to someone else."

"NRA Life Memberships Only $600.00 You Save $900.00!"

I can save $1,500 by keeping my money. I would need to purchase twelve conexes to break even.

One problem is that there are only about 7' of clearance between the house and the fence and that is only if I take out the gates or side fence and the gate posts!

One of the gate posts is 6x6 pressure treated and sunk in five bags of concrete!

There are neighbors on three sides, so we cannot go over a fence.

I quickly looked into greenhouses, just thinking that I could use one until it cooled back down, and then move Mom's garden into it.

Greenhouses are really weak sheds.

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Containers are built so they can be stacked seven high, like the Volvos in that old ad. Way overbuilt for something to set in the yard.

The wooden floors have been soaked in who knows what.

I suggested to my son he hire a crane to lift a section of aircraft fuselage over his garage into the back yard. (He's up by SeaTac airport) He hasn't done it yet.

Access to the building site is part of your design brief. So, nothing modular or trailerable; it's panelized or stick built. Could your plan work with a 16ft circle for a foundation?

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