smog testing cheat using HHO generator

[dsmm99]

Hi,
I have a '84 Toyota Sunrader motorhome with a new Remanufactured r22 engine. I have spent a few thousand dollars to make the motorhome run again (engine replacement) only to find that it will not pass smog no matter what is done, new engine new carb new catalytic converter etc etc. I can not afford anymore repairs. so i decided to put a hidden hho generator in the motorhome so it will pass the smog test and i will get my registration.

has anyone every used a hho device to cheat smog? i read about one guy who did but the generator was under the hood so even though emissions showed 0 hydrocarbons they wouldnt pass him because it was modified.

anyone here have experience with this?

[mcrews]

Been here 6 yrs and haven't heard of such a thing.
In California, if you pass the smog, but fail the visual, you can get a waiver if the costs exceed a certain $$$ amount.

[mcrews]

I thought there was a 25 yr rule.....

[dsmm99]

well dmv has changed the rules and now only offers a one time waiver for a smog req. but when the next smog is req. (2 years) they will no longer issue you one and your only option is to fix it or scrap it with the retirement buy back program.

25 year program? i think you are thinking of the 1974 or older extemption.
all vehicles even hyrids are now req.

a humid enviorment would not change the high amount of HC's i have. mine has been listed as a gross polluter because of high HC's and if you check around you will see that the HC's almost disappear when you inject HHO into the carb.

HHO IS NOT WATER! it is a colorless odorless gas that is way more volatile then gas. yes it is made from water but the water stays in the generator only the air like gas comes out and goes to the engine, i hate when people say run your car on water, thats so stupid and not even close to what happens in the process. HHO is very dangerous, very explosive. I use my generator now to weld with.

[Fat Charlie]

I'm not up on California's rules, but if new engine new carb new catalytic converter etc etc can't pass smog, what's actually wrong? Is it a Frankencamper where nothing matches anything else closely enough to work properly or would a brand new 1984 anything still fail CA 2016 standards?

[Frank Lee]

If my advice just goes whoosh like I'm just talking to myself, this is what might happen. It went whoosh.

Yeah, an HHO generator. That's the ticket.

[dsmm99]

im not a mechanic so i have no clue what could fix it and two different shops couldnt figure it out and one said it might need a part that i cant get anymore and then later called and said he found one off of another toyota but would cost $600 and couldnt guarantee it would make it pass smog.

im sick of California if my hho generator doesnt work and cant find a illegal smog shop then i will be driving to another state to register.

[Natalya]

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

I'm not up on California's rules, but if new engine new carb new catalytic converter etc etc can't pass smog, what's actually wrong? Is it a Frankencamper where nothing matches anything else closely enough to work properly or would a brand new 1984 anything still fail CA 2016 standards?

That's what I want to know.

[iveyjh]

Let us know if it passes with the HHO Generator, I would like to know.

[RustyLugNut]

I do have experience using an HHO generator to try to pass smog - and it failed even more miserably. This was on an 87 Mercedes 300 with the 3L engine. The HC and CO were a bit high before the application of HHO. The second test with HHO reduced HC and CO only to see NOx double and the car failed.

Fix what's wrong before you throw a crutch at it.