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Old 10-25-2020, 12:54 AM   #571 (permalink)
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If every vote was counted and equal, as it should be, at least the voting part would be fair. Representation (or lack thereof), two-party dominance, rigged systems, cheating, etc are separate issues.

 
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:03 AM   #572 (permalink)
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There's a lot to discuss about law enforcement. It's not all bad. The way some cops treat and kill people is criminal, despicable, and infuriating. Cell phone cameras and the internet are hard to hide from, deny, and control. Some very recent cases highlight that more than ever. One would have to be blinded by something to not see it.
 
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It seems some people don't know their principles... Quite a bit of what you write is unclear.
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If every vote was counted and equal, as it should be, at least the voting part would be fair.
If the vote is fair and the Bill of Rights is adhered to, what else could you want?
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There's a lot to discuss about law enforcement.
Thanks for bringing it up. People say 'defund da police and send out the social workers'. And the response is 'hyuk, in bullet-proof vests right?'

I would point to the model for police/anarchist cooperation — CAHOOTS

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CAHOOTS (Crisis Assistance Helping Out On The Streets) is a mental health crisis intervention program in Eugene, Oregon. Since 1989 they have responded to Eugene's mental health 911 calls.[1] In most cities, police respond to such calls.[1][2] According to the Treatment Advocacy Center in Arlington, VA, at least 25% of people killed in police encounters have serious mental illness.[2][3]

Other cities in the US and other countries have investigated or implemented the concept.[3] In 2015 Stockholm a similar concept was implemented and considered a success.[3] In the US as of 2019 CAHOOTS was working with Olympia, Denver, Oakland, New York City, Indianapolis, Portland, Austin, and Chicago to help implement similar programs.[3][4]

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Calls to 911 that are related to addiction, disorientation, mental health crises, and homelessness but which don't pose a danger to others are routed to CAHOOTS.[4] Teams of two responders include a medic and a mental health crisis counselor.[1][2] Responders attend to immediate health issues, de-escalate, and help formulate a plan, which may include finding a bed in a homeless shelter or transporting to a mental health facility.[4] Some calls require both CAHOOTS and law enforcement to be called out initially, and sometimes CAHOOTS calls in law enforcement or law enforcement calls in CAHOOTS, for instance in the case of a homeless person who is in danger of being ticketed.[4]

In 2018 they responded to 20% of calls in Eugene and Springfield, Oregon,[1] up from 17% in 2017.[2] In 2018, the program cost $800,000, as compared to $58 million for the police.[2]

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CAHOOTS was founded in 1989 by the Eugene Police Department and White Bird Clinic, a nonprofit mental health crisis intervention initiative that had been in existence since 1969 as an "alternative for those who didn't trust the cops."[4] From its founding, White Bird Clinic had an informal working relationship with local law enforcement.[4] CAHOOTS formalized the relationship.[5][4] The name, an acronym for Crisis Assistance Helping Out On The Streets, was chosen because the White Bird Clinic "was now 'in cahoots' with the police."[4]
Pareto Principle: 20% costs $800K, 80% costs 58,000K. CAHOOTS give all credit to the governmental and non-governmental community agencies they work with.

edit: I worked at White Bird in 1969. Back then it was the Bummer Squad.
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Another law enforcement issue we should be talking about is 'Disarm the police.'
 
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Alright, there's the person that originally posted that fringe nonsense, and they're weighing in with a meme.
 
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Alright, there's the person that originally posted that fringe nonsense, and they're weighing in with a meme.




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Yea, cartoons!
 
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No. Try to keep up.

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The meme first appeared in Richard Dawkins' first book, "The Selfish Gene" (1976), and was an attempt to understand why some behaviours, from an evolutionary perspective, seemed to make no sense but, somehow or other, were found to be very common in human societies. As Dawkins emphasised, natural selection is a ruthless judge of its ...
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You might want to consider that the forum AdmInistrators might short circuit your account for posting your fringe cartoon collections.

And, I'm working on a new thread that might be very helpful to the aerodynAMics subforum.


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