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Old 07-02-2015, 06:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:18 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I love those Metro pics, and I want to like the idea of a stretched Gen 1 Insight. But the added weight for what is already a low power engine makes me wonder. If the OEM car had merely been a 4 seater it would have had some difficulty with significant hill at speed if it had four passengers in it, I suspect. Since I imagine the stretched car woukd be for added freight and bedding... how would you overcome the low-power issue?

Maybe make the extension out of lightweight materials and make it as short as possible, dojng something clever to maximkze space?

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Stretch Nissan Leaf Electric Limo For Sale On eBay: What Would You Pay?

Many leafs are made into limos, add a 5wk diesel genset and 75mpg at 25mph later.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
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How many engines have you converted to Miller Cycle?
I have messed more with Diesels, and getting a supercharger to use in a Miller is not so easy back here.
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With the original BMW turbodiesel and 5-speed manual (!?) the Vixen was supposed to be good for 30mpg.

It isn't as good as a Metro's mileage, but it is WAY better than sleeping in a tent and even better than some motel whose last bedbug eradication program was ineffective.
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I have messed more with Diesels, and getting a supercharger to use in a Miller is not so easy back here.
You made it sound like a guy could go out to the driveway after breakfast with a wrench and have it done by lunchtime.
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Many leafs are made into limos, add a 5wk diesel genset and 75mpg at 25mph later.
That's pretty slick, but a bit steep at $100k.

Keeping in mind that this is all a thought experiment until there's actually a car chopped in half... stiffer springs should help w/ the weight. And it looks like DIY turbo setups can be done for a little more than $1k if one knows how to weld the tubes and whatnot. Bumping up to 100Hp would certainly help w/ the hill climbing and freeway merging, since it sounds like power's a concern w/ these cars. I think it's totally do-able. Soon as I move out of this apartment to a proper house with garage. rotfl.
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That's pretty slick, but a bit steep at $100k.

Keeping in mind that this is all a thought experiment until there's actually a car chopped in half... stiffer springs should help w/ the weight. And it looks like DIY turbo setups can be done for a little more than $1k if one knows how to weld the tubes and whatnot. Bumping up to 100Hp would certainly help w/ the hill climbing and freeway merging, since it sounds like power's a concern w/ these cars. I think it's totally do-able. Soon as I move out of this apartment to a proper house with garage. rotfl.
A leaf with front end damage + a leaf with rear end damage = $10k or less depending on how much you value the leftovers

Could even have 2 batteries if the rear ender wasn't hit too hard.
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This from the same guy that doesn't blink when recommending people swap engines and design and fabricate their own engine management systems? ........
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I have always been more familiarized with engine swaps than structural mods and bodywork.
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How many engines have you converted to Miller Cycle?
i've seen stretches on framed (how it's made) vehicles but never uni-body.
i think this was a question based on thoughts, not actually doing it. cost would be out of this enormous world and would require some unobtainium.
it seems to have turned into a pissing match though:
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How much do you suppose that Metro stretch cost?



Unibody limos: they are a thing:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...unibody%20limo

In fact, used limos are dirt cheap.

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