05-11-2015, 12:00 PM
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My dad just reported last night that he just got a new Legacy and that he and Mom took a trip from DC to NY, he got about 38 mpg (according to the HUD) over that distance. That's not too bad, certainly a big step up from sub-25. If you want to stay in the Subaru stable that's a large improvement and the fuel savings, if you drive a lot, will reduce some of the new car payment burden.
He has the newest Subaru FB engine, which is itself not without a list of problems. I wonder how other countries are doing with Subaru's flat diesel?
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05-11-2015, 03:12 PM
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I agree with the Honda Fit recommendation. Fits are great cars. Don't be afraid of older ones, they're dead simple and not much goes wrong.
Resist the urge to put cheap coilovers on it, resist even more the urge to put a rear swaybar on it, and most of all resist the urge to put hellaflush 18's on it. Stick with 15" or 16" rims, even 14", and spend your money on quality tires.
The car changes direction like a go kart and will put lots of smiles on your face in the turns. On the straights, not so much. At the pump the smile comes right back. And when your buddy buys that 55" flat screen you can earn his eternal gratitude by hauling it home for him.
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05-11-2015, 03:57 PM
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I'm biased towards the Fit. Course, that's just me.
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Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @∞MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%
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05-13-2015, 12:12 AM
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Wow... that's pretty awesome, im just trying to think of what I would say to a girl while I pick her up in that, hah.
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05-13-2015, 12:14 AM
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I agree with the Honda Fit recommendation. Fits are great cars. Don't be afraid of older ones, they're dead simple and not much goes wrong.
Resist the urge to put cheap coilovers on it, resist even more the urge to put a rear swaybar on it, and most of all resist the urge to put hellaflush 18's on it. Stick with 15" or 16" rims, even 14", and spend your money on quality tires.
The car changes direction like a go kart and will put lots of smiles on your face in the turns. On the straights, not so much. At the pump the smile comes right back. And when your buddy buys that 55" flat screen you can earn his eternal gratitude by hauling it home for him.
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Is any honda fit good or would you recommend a certain year?
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05-13-2015, 08:47 AM
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Wow... that's pretty awesome, im just trying to think of what I would say to a girl while I pick her up in that, hah.
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"You know what they say about guys with big boattails..."
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Is any honda fit good or would you recommend a certain year?
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2nd generation, 09-013. An improvement over the 1st gen and much cheaper and more fun to drive than the 3rd. You're also going to find more used manuals for sale if you overlook the 3rd gen.
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Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @∞MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%
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05-13-2015, 09:22 AM
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One better than the Fit is a Fit Hybrid.
Such a pity Honda does not sell it everywhere...
I test drove one and wanted to buy it, but couldn't get the price right.
My dad did buy a Fit Hybrid though.
Honda did sell a Fit Hybrid with a lowered roof line and a partial boat tail, but they named it Insight.
Technically (engine/systems/etc) the Insight is the same as the Fit Hybrid.
It just has less room for rear passengers, if they are longer than say 6' that's a problem. And the rear bench is less flexible - the back can fold forward but the seat can not move up.
The boot is considerably longer but not as high. Volumewise it is about the same.
You can get good FE from an Insight if you drive like a... well like me.
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05-17-2015, 02:01 PM
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Have you considered the dark side ?
The "T" in TDI means Turbo.
And as you know Turbo means so much more...
(Muuuuuhahahahahaha!)
*Yeah, I know.
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05-17-2015, 06:15 PM
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I feel your pain. I just sold my 2005 LGT wagon 5-speed. We got in a time crunch with our landlord, and I sold two of my cars (the ones that run) for a down payment on the house. The house is also farther away from work, and 22-24 MPG wasn't gonna cut it anymore, so I bought a 1992 Civic VX for $1500. It's my 7th Honda, and 3rd hatchback. I love the old Honda cars. Think about all the money you could save if you sold the WRX for $8000 and got a decent $2000-$2500 older car! If you're mechanically inclined, most any old 4 cylinder car is easy to learn and work on. But then again, I'm already married and not trying to impress anyone! lol. A Fit would be a great car that's a little newer and nicer.
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05-19-2015, 08:38 PM
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Dang, i should've chimed in sooner! I haven't been active on the forum lately because I was tucked away at my office during tax season.
The WRX is capable of decent mpg numbers. Yes, I've only cracked 30mpg a few times since I've had my car since 2013, but that is simply because my commute hides its true potential.
My last job was located on the top of a big hill. Commuting downhill to home and using EOC, I've achieved 36-38 trip mpg. However, the uphill commute to work, I could only achieve 31-32mpg. Throw in weekend driving, my averages were typically 27-29mpg.
Then I got a new job that was 50 miles away. I decided to garage the STI and take the train to work. Therefore, most of my driving was city driving, thus my average tanked to around 24-25mpg.
However, decided to take on the 50mile commute to my new job = more highway miles. I can achieve 32-33 trip mpg on my typical commute. I recently updated my fuel log and my last 3 tanks were 30.99, 31.24, and 30.57 mpg. Not bad considering that the last ¼ of my commute is stop and go Los Angeles traffic.
I recently negotiated with my bosses to let me come to work later in the mornings, that way I can avoid the early morning rush hour traffic. This should definitely boost up my mpg averages.
Now that tax season is over, I’ll probably split my time driving/taking the train to save wear and tear on my car.
30-31 mpg in the world of Ecomodding is not such a great feat, however, it's still 53% better than EPA. I always remind myself that:
Yes you CAN have a 300hp, turbo, AWD monster AND get similar mpg (32.1mpg per Fuelly.com) as a typical Honda Civic driver.
I like having my cake and eating it too.
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