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Old 08-01-2013, 12:48 PM   #441 (permalink)
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Well. Highway trip for business. Good thing I'm getting paid for the miles, otherwise I'd be a sad panda indeed.

HOT (97F) so AC was used. Far enough for time to matter, so speed was high (for me ).

48 mpg / 256 going there
55 / 253 back home

This Fit is not a highway criuser. 2900 rpm at 60 is terrible. The steering gets darty at high speed and you have to be on your game the whole time to keep it straight. It's a great commuting car, though.

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Old 08-01-2013, 02:16 PM   #442 (permalink)
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For having basically an unmodified Fit, those numbers are incredible. I assume your tires are above normal levels, and you use P&G?
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:28 PM   #443 (permalink)
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Yes indeed. That's basically it - tires and p&g. Tires are at 55/50 f/r (51 psi rated). The back end gets a little squirrelly any higher than that.

Full on p&g for hours, including the AC.

clutch in
select 5th gear
clutch out, then back in
clutch out gently into gear
Pulse
while pulsing, turn on AC button
clutch in, shift to neutral, clutch out
key off
key on
turn off AC for glide (draws big battery power if left on)
wait..............
repeat

Now I'm tired.
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Old 08-01-2013, 03:13 PM   #444 (permalink)
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Oh, and it seems Fuelly is censoring my car. I have 9 fillups over 6 months, so it's not because it's too new on the site.

Honda Fit MPG Reports | Fuelly - highest is 53 mpg
2009 Honda Fit MPG Reports | Fuelly - highest is 45 mpg
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:05 PM   #445 (permalink)
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You are on Fuelly's Fit 2009 list, but your mpg does not show up on the bar diagram for all Fits.
That's probably cause only bars are shown for MPG ratings that have at least 2 cars achieving it.
Find a Fit buddy that does 60 mpg too...

Sumtin' else.
I heard my rad fan kick to life for the first time ever (in 18,000 km) today!
Caught in a traffic jam in sweltering heat (the MID showed 40C outside, guess it was 'just' 35C). Airco was running. LGB in place as ever.
I monitor my air intake temp and saw it rise quickly from say 45C to way above 60C!
The fans cool the rads, but the warm air has nowhere to go cause the engine bay is pretty much closed up and inevitably finds its way into the air intake.
I killed the AC, fan stopped immediately, temp did rise no more.
Traffic loosened up, temp went down quickly. Engine was running fine all the time even despite the high 60's.

It puzzled me cause in winter, with the LGB and intake air drawn directly from behind the rad, I found that FE suffered on the highway if the air was hotter than say 40C.
Then I realized my car has EGR. On the highway the exhaust is hot as the engine produces a lot of power and heat. In a traffic jam it is idling most of the time; and even though the engine itself will be warm the exhaust system will be less warm than under load, and so will the gas entering the EGR, compensating for the hotter intake air.

So apparently warm intake air on an engine with EGR does no harm as long as the load on the engine is (very) light.

Today was exceptionally hot, which made too many people at the same time make the decision to go cool off in our island-and-peninsula province of Zeeland. So all roads leading into Zeeland turned into creeping road blocks. Took me 90 minutes extra to bring my kid to my inlaws for a stayover, and another hour extra on the way back. I love my car but I'm toast. I can run the AC on full, recirculation etc. that helps but I cannot hide from direct sunlight through the side window. For hours. Ahhh well.

Tomorrow will be even hotter, will likely break the all time high (37.6C or so) for our country. Traffic will be worse too. I sure hope nobody dies.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:04 PM   #446 (permalink)
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Took of my right power mirror today, took about 20 minutes now that i know what i'm doing. I have try to improvise a cover. I'm going to leave it off for commuting around town, since i never need to look in the right lane. I may leave it off for highway travel, though i'm not comfortable even with the large convex in door mirror i installed. For city driving in Boston it's a MUST!, so i'll pull over and bolt it in. It takes 2 minutes to reinstall. I'll leave the Power part of the mirrors unplugged since i don't need to readjust it.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:22 AM   #447 (permalink)
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final contribution

Well, the U.F.O. has changed hands, so a 88.5 MPG (US) fill on Aug 1 is my last contribution to Team Honda for the foreseeable future. (Previous fill was Nov, 2012! )

It's back to team Metro for me, once I get the Firefly rolling this week.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:30 AM   #448 (permalink)
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Well, the U.F.O. has changed hands, so a 88.5 MPG (US) fill on Aug 1 is my last contribution to Team Honda for the foreseeable future. (Previous fill was Nov, 2012! )

It's back to team Metro for me, once I get the Firefly rolling this week.
But maybe Minispeed will continue the U.F.O.'s contributions to the fuel log and the Honda team?

Would it be possible to transfer a car from one forum member to another, administratively? Just curious... and this would be THE opportunity to test it, if Minispeed agrees of course.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:41 AM   #449 (permalink)
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There's no simple method to do that, and I'm not going to set it up for the limited number of times it'll be used!

I'd send minispeed a private message and see if he's game to start a new log and keep the car active in Team Honda.
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It seems a side mirror delete helps, but without a plug i'm experiencing a lot of turbulence generated from the mirror cavity. It's not as good as it could be, i notice there's drag were there wasn't before, even though i'm coasting 1mph faster with less frontal area.

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