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Old 05-19-2019, 11:59 AM   #1191 (permalink)
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Moderators can we please have this thread split? I'm sick of clicking to see new posts about Tesla Model 3 and finding all kinds of other stuff instead.
Yeah let's go back to beating up Tesla.

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Old 05-19-2019, 12:41 PM   #1192 (permalink)
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There's always a bell curve for the adoption of new tech. You, sir, are more on the late adopter side. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

There's also one poster who's beholden to legacy auto manufacturers. Which is fine, but it makes Tesla's battle even more uphill.
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Old 05-19-2019, 01:33 PM   #1193 (permalink)
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:26 AM   #1194 (permalink)
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Yes, the Model 3 is only the most efficient long range electric car - making it almost THREE TIMES more efficient than a Prius.

The Model 3 is only the safest car ever made.

The Model 3 is only the lowest drag car sold at this time.

The Model 3 is quicker than most other cars sold.

The Model 3 has the highest US made content, of any car sold today.

Tesla has made the biggest investment in a world wide quick charging system.

Tesla has broken the mold on how they sell cars, and they have stopped the planned obsolescence that most other car makers use to try and churn sales.
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Moderators can we please have this thread split? I'm sick of clicking to see new posts about Tesla Model 3 and finding all kinds of other stuff instead.
On the face of it, that's a reasonable request!

On the other hand, how much time do you want me to spend on this task? How far back in the ~1,190 posts do you want me to go to weed things out??

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Tesla has done amazing things and it would be an absolute tragedy for the company to fail because they don't focus on the economics of it all.

It seems crazy, but there is not a comparable substitute for a Tesla right now. Not when you include manufacturing volume. Features, performance, cost, and availability. I don't see any other mfg keeping pace. Plenty of them could, or maybe have plans to, but currently a Tesla is the best EV you can buy.
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On the face of it, that's a reasonable request!

On the other hand, how much time do you want me to spend on this task? How far back in the ~1,190 posts do you want me to go to weed things out??

Yikes!
All of the way back to #1, so that any Tesla fanboys who encounter the thread are not distracted by things that are only important to bourgeois.

It may take you all week, but that is a risk we are willing to take!

Would they care if you create a thread for each topic (that we have already finished discussing) or one master thread called "Random stuff discussed in the Tesla Model 3 thread that is not Tesla Model 3 related?"

However, unless you slam your staff and say "You shall not go off-topic," I do not see any benefit from your effort, and saying "Come on, guys! Stay on topic!" would have been just as easy as requesting favors from our benevolent overlords.
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On the face of it, that's a reasonable request!

On the other hand, how much time do you want me to spend on this task? How far back in the ~1,190 posts do you want me to go to weed things out??

Yikes!
I suspect they just mean the digression in posts 1166-1189.

As a non-side note: I finally rode in a Model 3 last week.

Things I liked: performance, body gaps looked nice and even, glass roof didn't feel hot even though it was sunny midday, plenty of room in the rear seats, frunk . The rear trunk opening was a lot better than I thought it would be. Screen has a set of static icons across the bottom that don't move and always do the same thing. Like buttons. Aluminum hood was nice.

Things I didn't like: too much on the screen (the vent controls especially?), the rear seats weren't that comfy, the brake fluid reservoir is hidden under plastic cladding under the hood, and no option for smaller wheels than 18" with correspondingly larger rubber. The "aero" wheels are actually just regular non-aero alloys with a fairly flimsy feeling hubcap.

The 12v battery is apparently under the same plastic cladding in the trunk. Not great for access, but much better than BMW with the i3 (WHY???).

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That wouldn't be so bad. wdb - what say ye?

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