03-20-2019, 10:59 PM
|
#81 (permalink)
|
|
AKA - Jason
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,605
Thanks: 327
Thanked 2,152 Times in 1,456 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwichse
|
The new RAV4 Hybrid hasn't made it to fueleconomy.gov yet. The Toyota website says 41/38/40. Greencarreports.com is claiming 39 combined.
The hybrid only comes with AWD and is $800 more than the gas version. It starts at $28,750. Available "Spring" 2019.
Last edited by JSH; 03-20-2019 at 11:08 PM..
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
|
|
 Today
|
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
|
|
03-20-2019, 11:34 PM
|
#82 (permalink)
|
|
Human Environmentalist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,895
Thanks: 4,346
Thanked 4,501 Times in 3,462 Posts
|
Sounds like a winner. Must be gutless, but I'd take gutless for 40 MPG from an SUV.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-20-2019, 11:58 PM
|
#83 (permalink)
|
|
AKA - Jason
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,605
Thanks: 327
Thanked 2,152 Times in 1,456 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5
Sounds like a winner. Must be gutless, but I'd take gutless for 40 MPG from an SUV.
|
The hybrid is the most powerful version. ICE is 175 hp / 163 lb-ft. The front electric motor is 118 hp / 149 lb-ft. The rear motor is 54 hp / 89 lb-ft.
0-60 7.5 seconds
1/4 mile in 15.6 seconds @ 90.4 mph
I'm not looking to derail the Model Y thread so that is all I'll say about the RAV4 hybrid. My original intent was to show what a CUV looks like.
A CUV is an unibody hatchback or wagon that has been lifted. If you don't lift the car it is just another hatchback. |
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-26-2019, 10:14 PM
|
#84 (permalink)
|
|
AKA - Jason
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,605
Thanks: 327
Thanked 2,152 Times in 1,456 Posts
|
Less than a month after unveiling the Model Y (and about 18 months before it goes on sale) Musk has decided to raise the price by $1,000
This is why most companies don't show new cars to the public or announce pricing years in advance.
https://electrek.co/2019/03/24/tesla...rices-april-2/ |
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-27-2019, 04:35 AM
|
#85 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,248 Times in 1,456 Posts
|
But only for the people that have not ordered it yet. The early ones got and keep the original price. This time it did make sense to order early.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
  lifetime FE over 0.2 Gigameter or 0.13 Megamile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RedDevil For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-27-2019, 12:47 PM
|
#86 (permalink)
|
|
Human Environmentalist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,895
Thanks: 4,346
Thanked 4,501 Times in 3,462 Posts
|
Well the price of Teslas is going to effectively increase by $3750 when that credit gets eliminated beginning of next year. I expect sales will be extremely soft in the US market beginning in July when the credit is practically gone. Chevy Bolt sales will plummet right about now.
That leaves Nissan with a full credit, and a handful of Korean cars that will be made in low volume for select markets.
Perhaps I'll get a new 40 kWh Leaf just before the first tax credit reduction hits. My current priority is to get out of this apartment so I have a place to charge.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-27-2019, 01:23 PM
|
#87 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,908
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,952 Times in 1,845 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5
Sounds like a winner. Must be gutless, but I'd take gutless for 40 MPG from an SUV.
|
Model Y will be torquey as hell, and quick, and gets over 100MPGe. |
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to NeilBlanchard For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-27-2019, 04:44 PM
|
#88 (permalink)
|
|
AKA - Jason
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,605
Thanks: 327
Thanked 2,152 Times in 1,456 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
Model Y will be torquey as hell, and quick, and gets over 100MPGe.
|
It should be quick for $52,000. The extra $25,000 you pay for the Model Y buys a LOT of gasoline. |
|
|
|
|
03-27-2019, 04:50 PM
|
#89 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,248 Times in 1,456 Posts
|
That would be the LR AWD. 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. Faster than most performance cars.
The $40,000 SR RWD does it in 5.9. Not a slouch, try find an ICE SUV of that price that comes near.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gigameter or 0.13 Megamile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RedDevil For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-27-2019, 04:56 PM
|
#90 (permalink)
|
|
Human Environmentalist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,895
Thanks: 4,346
Thanked 4,501 Times in 3,462 Posts
|
Of course, the SR version probably won't get into the hands of drivers until a year after the LR version launches, which will also probably miss the anticipated launch time frame.
I'd really like to see EVs in the $25k range for them to be a real threat to ICE. Personally I'm not willing to pay more than $20k on a new vehicle, and much less on a used one even though I can "afford" it. Cages (4 wheel vehicles) are like a hammer to me. I don't need an expensive hammer, I just need to drive the nails in.
|
|
|
|
|
