Uh oh, another Tesla autopilot crash fatality

[MetroMPG]

This makes me want to experience Tesla's system.

So far, my only experience with lane-keeping/lane departure warning is in my friends' Prius Prime, and it sucks big time at lane-keeping. Maybe I was using it wrong or had wrong expectations.

I wonder how Tesla handles wildlife crossing a highway. That's probably the biggest risk I face in my usual travels.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

I wonder how Tesla handles wildlife crossing a highway. That's probably the biggest risk I face in my usual travels.

I haven't experienced any auto system. My assumption is autopilot is much better at avoiding collisions with animals since it can watch all sides of the road continuously and instantly respond.

[oil pan 4]

I thought it only did highway and interstate driving for now.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I thought it only did highway and interstate driving for now.

I don't follow Tesla, but my understanding is there are 3 autonomous packages. The most basic is Autopilot and is standard now (included in every trim level). It's used on highway and interstates. There's enhanced autopilot that can operate on surface streets and I think identify and respond to lights and signs. Full Self Drive hasn't been released yet.

[Piotrsko]

Wildlife maybe, semi trailers and bridge abutments prolly not.

[bwilson4web]

My 2019 Std Rng Plus Model 3 has:

• Autopilot - bought as an extra in March 26, 2019.
• Full Self Driving - bought for $6,000 in October 2019, requires Autopilot. Now it costs $8,000 and likely to go up as features come online.
• Hardware V3.00 - free update in February 2020.

ADVANTAGES:

• Much improved lane keeping. It used to ride the outside of a right curve making oncoming traffic 'exciting.' Now it stays centered.
• Turn signal triggered or acknowledged lane changes.
• Auto parking both parallel and straight.
• Integrated with navigation to indicate lane changes coming up.
• Dynamic cruise control down to below 10 mph.
• Automatic STOP, YIELD, and traffic light processing.
• Automatic alerts for crossing lane lines and emergency stopping.
• Summon in parking lot with dogs in car is amusing.

DISADVANTAGES:

• Phantom braking still exists in some edge cases. A GPS problem was corrected.
• Does not make intersection right or left turns.
• Some lane markings can lead to unexpected steering.
• Uses Google Map speed data and sometimes reads speed signs.

Bob Wilson

[freebeard]

Summon in parking lot with dogs in car is amusing.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

This makes me want to experience Tesla's system.

So far, my only experience with lane-keeping/lane departure warning is in my friends' Prius Prime, and it sucks big time at lane-keeping. Maybe I was using it wrong or had wrong expectations.

I wonder how Tesla handles wildlife crossing a highway. That's probably the biggest risk I face in my usual travels.

There was a shooting yesterday in the casino parking lot on my mail route.

Somebody had hit a small deer crossing in the crosswalk no less. turns out it was only mostly dead. Fish and Game came about 30 mins later and dispatched it with a high powered rifle, in the lot, in the middle of town.

I hope if I get hit in that crosswalk they don't shoot me in the head.

I kind of doubt any of the autopilots will be very good at "seeing" and anticipating how wildlife behaves. A person sees deer on the side of the road and slows down, watching for signs of what they intend. I don't think the autopilot will even think about it unless it is actually currently in the path. Even then if it's on the highway does it recognise the danger and apply maximum braking? What if the deer is running, will the car swerve to avoid or just brake?

[redpoint5]

One thing I've got down to instinct is to swerve toward the tail end of the deer if possible. Deer typically will continue forward if they move rather than do an about-face. If I've got time to stop, I choose breaking. If not, I swerve.

I think AI will get better at making this decision than humans at one point, if they aren't already there. In high school a friend of mine was surprised by a deer as we went around a bend and he hit his brake, causing the car to spin out almost in a full 360, fortunately staying on the road and not hitting anything. The typical driver has pretty bad instincts with regards to handling surprises.

[freebeard]

I hope if I get hit in that crosswalk they don't shoot me in the head.

I as well.

I kind of doubt any of the autopilots will be very good at "seeing" and anticipating how wildlife behaves.

When I was in high school, driving home at night from dragging the gut in Salem, there were a half-dozen sheep down in the ditch. I could only see the top halves as I approached.

One of them bolted across the highway. All I ever saw was some wool right in front of the headlight. Fortunately it wasn't open range so I didn't have to pay for the sheep, just the [minimum coverage] car.