Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > The Unicorn Corral
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-16-2014, 02:58 PM   #61 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: .
Posts: 6,190
Thanks: 179
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,126 Posts
Getting some(any)thing to work is one thing.

Getting it to "pass" EPA and CARB emission certifications across hot-desert to cold-mountain elevations is something else!

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-16-2014, 03:04 PM   #62 (permalink)
Mad Scientist
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: northwest
Posts: 20
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Tele man View Post
Getting some(any)thing to work is one thing.

Getting it to "pass" EPA and CARB emission certifications across hot-desert to cold-mountain elevations is something else!
while I don't want to make any extra pollution, we don't have emissions testing where I live. but, if running on vapor is more efficient, and actually gets better mileage, then there is less going out the tailpipe. if I'm running lean, then again less out of the tailpipe.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 06:26 PM   #63 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: .
Posts: 6,190
Thanks: 179
Thanked 1,525 Times in 1,126 Posts
EPA coverge extends to ALL states, CARB exceeds EPA.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 06:33 PM   #64 (permalink)
Mad Scientist
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: northwest
Posts: 20
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Tele man View Post
EPA coverge extends to ALL states, CARB exceeds EPA.
Good to know. I plan on having it tested once its running. Like I said IF is more efficient THEN I'd like to assume it must be burning cleaner or better mixed in chambers which should also be cleaner.

And last nights pics were a joke. Im actually putting my air control together at this moment.

Also, I'm still returning pcv vapors, using the maf, and temp sensor, and emissions vapor recycler
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20140816_142922.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	98.8 KB
ID:	15588  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 08:19 PM   #65 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,265

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,568 Times in 2,832 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by soulcrusher View Post
Baaaaaa baaaaaaas go back to sleep to continue your American dream. it's just shocking how close minded and ignorant people areespecially considering they don't have any hands on experience but they seem to know everything
You think I don't have any practical experience?

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...uck-25485.html
That ones on the home page.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...air-28914.html

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...mer-23893.html

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ing-29002.html
I even figured out how much power it takes to turn a vehicle power steering pump.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...els-23234.html

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ngs-19589.html
"A side by side comparison with low tension oil rings Vs. standard showed the low tension oil ringed piston was much easier to push and pull up and down the cylinder bore by hand."

Question: Turbo charging a turbocharger - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

DIY: BYOB, for more power, a lot less weight - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

Question: How to hook up a transmission cooler - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

Info: Low tension oil rings - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

Eco mod my welder - EcoRenovator

Beat up "2008" car trailer

Any one know anything about power factor correction?

120 volt mig machines can't.....

AC to AC/DC

How much do the little 110 arc welders suck?

100 dolla generator

There is a lot more this is what I could find in less than 5 minutes.

Lets see, I design, fabricate, cut weld, build lithium batteries, build engines in my living room, build and modify welding machines, build 220 volt extension, modify generators, do power factor correction, build air compressors and a lot of other stuff....

Your hands on experience looks like you play with lawn mowers and make stuff out of old soup cans.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.

Last edited by oil pan 4; 08-16-2014 at 08:27 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 08:26 PM   #66 (permalink)
Mad Scientist
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: northwest
Posts: 20
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
You think I don't have any practical experience?

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...uck-25485.html
That ones on the home page.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...air-28914.html

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...mer-23893.html

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ing-29002.html
I even figured out how much power it takes to turn a vehicle power steering pump.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...els-23234.html

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ngs-19589.html
"A side by side comparison with low tension oil rings Vs. standard showed the low tension oil ringed piston was much easier to push and pull up and down the cylinder bore by hand."

Question: Turbo charging a turbocharger - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

DIY: BYOB, for more power, a lot less weight - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

Question: How to hook up a transmission cooler - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

Info: Low tension oil rings - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

Eco mod my welder - EcoRenovator

Beat up "2008" car trailer

Any one know anything about power factor correction?

120 volt mig machines can't.....

AC to AC/DC

How much do the little 110 arc welders suck?

100 dolla generator

There is a lot more this is what I could find in less than 5 minutes.

Lets see, I design, fabricate, cut weld, build lithium batteries, build engines in my living room, build and modify welding machines, build 220 volt extension, modify generators, do power factor correction and a lot of other stuff....

Your hands on experience looks like you play with lawn mowers and make stuff out of old soup cans.
In your living room? Ok Joe Dirt
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 10:08 PM   #67 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,265

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,568 Times in 2,832 Posts
I don't think you under stand.

Now you are supposed to post examples of your work.
Oh what, don't have anything besides lawn mowers and soup cans?
I'm not surprised.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2014, 11:26 PM   #68 (permalink)
Mad Scientist
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: northwest
Posts: 20
Thanks: 3
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
I don't think you under stand.

Now you are supposed to post examples of your work.
Oh what, don't have anything besides lawn mowers and soup cans?
I'm not surprised.
Awww. This is my custom air flow controller since the engine runs opposite to normal. All the gas is always ready, just add air. It's connected to the throttle body control and adjustable. You see the pcv and temp sensor in the replacement air connection. For day 3
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20140816_192126.jpg
Views:	51
Size:	93.7 KB
ID:	15589   Click image for larger version

Name:	20140816_192121.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	101.9 KB
ID:	15590   Click image for larger version

Name:	20140816_144156.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	120.7 KB
ID:	15591  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2014, 02:23 PM   #69 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 982
Thanks: 271
Thanked 385 Times in 259 Posts
Prototyping is what this forum is all about.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
I don't think you under stand.

Now you are supposed to post examples of your work.
Oh what, don't have anything besides lawn mowers and soup cans?
I'm not surprised.
If quality of work was in order, I think most people could execute accordingly. soulcrusher is in the "proof of concept" stage. There is little need for pretty elegance and longevity.

I worked on a 60 million dollar government project during the Reagan Era "Star Wars" concept. Many times we "prototyped" in everyday materials. We mocked up a working model of a wave guide using coffee cans and duct tape. Tax payer dollars should not be wasted.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2014, 02:51 PM   #70 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 982
Thanks: 271
Thanked 385 Times in 259 Posts
Your warnings are noted.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Tele man View Post
EPA coverge extends to ALL states, CARB exceeds EPA.
But, they have little teeth in the scheme of things. Just as long as a person's vehicle is not dripping fluids, exhausting visible smoke and showing questionable construction we have little to worry about from the authorities other than annual inspections and traps.

The "non tampering" laws are hoped to be a deterrent but enforcement efforts are usually reserved for bigger targets. People such as pgfpro and soulcrusher have little to fear about what they post about their projects on this and other public boards as it is beyond the reasonable scope of the authorities to police such activities. Thousands of high school, college and university vehicle projects would fall under the "tampering" laws and yet there is no wide spread effort by the EPA to stop these infractions even if they are publicly published on the net and student papers. Even more illegal activities are publicly published by private individuals on the web.

The authorities generally go after sellers. A local dealer was fined several hundred thousand for selling and installing a non certified device on roughly a hundred vehicles he sold out of his lot. This does not mean they do not go after individuals. Some particularly onerous individuals who have attracted undue attention to themselves have come under scrutiny. But, if you are the average tinkerer, you have little to fear.

If soulcrusher makes it to the point of a production viable product, then he will have to meet the EPA requirements. However, depending on his product, he may not have to meet as extensive a set of requirements as an OEM. SEMA (Specialty Equipment Manufacturers Association) has workshops and guidelines that can be helpful in this matter.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to RustyLugNut For This Useful Post:
pgfpro (08-17-2014)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com