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Old 12-05-2007, 05:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Currently Riding this 'Bent



It's a beast - 45 pounds of cheap imported mild steel


When not riding the 'bent... I'm riding this....



No clue how much it weighs... But it's a very old lugged cro-moly frame + the obvious extras (It is an old picture - I do have brakes and a better seat etc.).



It's not mine (either one), but it gets some use (one in foreground): 2007 UCF HPV


It is also a pig... At 90 pounds Luckily, most of that is in the fairing - and we're optimizing for weight for next year's HPV.

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32 pounds (not the lightest - but very nice )



Luckily for me - there's no appreciable hills (well, no hills really - just gentle slopes) So weight isn't really a factor that concerns me

Oh yeah... I like bikes. Especially your not so average variety. I'd commute to school on a penny farthing if I had one
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Getting OT, but a question for trebuchet:

What's the deal with under seat steering on bents? The only bent I've ridden for any length of time was this BikeE (which was a complete blast), but I have to think that hip level steering would be so much more comfortable. Plus cooler looking.

Is it harder to ride? Less inherently stable, or something?
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Old 12-05-2007, 11:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Getting OT, but a question for trebuchet:

What's the deal with under seat steering on bents? The only bent I've ridden for any length of time was this BikeE (which was a complete blast), but I have to think that hip level steering would be so much more comfortable. Plus cooler looking.

Is it harder to ride? Less inherently stable, or something?
USS(under) vs. ASS(above).... It's mostly personal preference. USS puts your arms lower - you could argue it is more ergonomic for that reason. ASS will be more aerodynamic from a frontal area perspective and typically has less components (no need for linkages).

Theoretically, the steering is exactly the same. But at first, you may psych yourself out enough to make your steering a bit wonky.

But just like riding a recumbent in general... It's no more difficult than riding a bike. It's different, yes - but not more difficult I personally prefer ASS - I've ridden both (and direct steer - in that velo-trike) - no particular reason though
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It is also a pig... At 90 pounds Luckily, most of that is in the fairing - and we're optimizing for weight for next year's HPV.
What a slick "pig": looks terrific!! I have a similarly enclosed trike, but it started out heavy with 3 disc brakes and very heavy frame, then the 3 fairings, then extra bracing, then horn-signals-flag-mirrors-stereo-etc., then a hub motor/batt. Probably will not win any contest unless there is one for weight - 150 pounds.

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What a slick "pig": looks terrific!! I have a similarly enclosed trike, but it started out heavy with 3 disc brakes and very heavy frame, then the 3 fairings, then extra bracing, then horn-signals-flag-mirrors-stereo-etc., then a hub motor/batt. Probably will not win any contest unless there is one for weight - 150 pounds.

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Old 01-08-2008, 05:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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A couple of 65 cms... One's 29½# and the other is 20# which is pretty good for the frame size, but I've drank from sturdier beer cans. The heavier has a low of 28x28 with the triple but the lighter with its 39x29 gearing still does way better climbing. Did Boston Montreal Boston on the heavier one, but it was probably around 45-50# with all the junk loaded on.

I want a Seven Axiom but I can't convince my better half to hook on street corners so that I could afford it...
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Many on Frappr (2004 - 2005), but most recent is 2007 on Flickr:
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I want a Seven Axiom but I can't convince my better half to hook on street corners so that I could afford it...
lol, a review of the Axiom on roadbikereview states that it's "reassuringly expensive."

$3200

Yep, thats reassuringly out of my price range.
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Bike weight

In cycling circles it is well known that to reduce weight, the most cost effective is to reduce rider mass. If you are already in the low end of the BMI, well done, then you can start to lighten the bike (IMHO). I used the following order as I wanted to keep the frame.
1. Remove any unnecessary equipment (wide to narrow tyres, racks, heavy repair kit)
2. Lighter versions of big things that spin (wheels, cranks)
3. Lighter versions of little things that spin (hubs, chainrings, clusters, pedals, shoes)


I ride an M5 Shockproof CroMoly 15kg or 33 pounds. It is very comfortable and aerodynamic. I usually ride with other guys on 8 to 12 kg standard frame bikes and can keep up quite well. They are faster up the hills as they are lighter and their bikes are lighter. My total rider bike weight is 100kg. My buddies come in around 80kg.
My current average speed over all terrain is 27kmh (17mph) and is getting better for two reasons. I am losing body weight and I am getting fitter. I also use the rolling momentum down the hill to assist going up the next one as much as possible. Hope this helps. Brad

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