Myth Busters SUCKS! (HHO mod, does it work?) - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum

markjs · 06-23-2008, 06:41 PM

I only recently found out about the "run your car on water" thing, and I was very excited about this prospect. I realize that running a car solely on water for a hundred bucks and some modding is ludicrous, but the concept of using it in conjunction with gas sounds very logical and reasonable to me.

So imagine my delight when my girlfriend leaves it on the Discovery channel when she left and I didn't change the channel, and the concept is part of their show. But then after wasting a half hour to see what the results were, I see them try to run the car on the HHO system alone. Never did they even suggest that one can use it in conjunction with gasoline!

They made it seem like the big oil company conspiracy is just a myth, but what I think they really did is proved it isn't a myth to me. Somehow they were told that they had to exclude this information from the show. I don't know if they sold out for a dollar amount to keep it quiet, or if the Discovery channel told them they could not present the information because of their advertisers.

I really want to know if this works and I think talking to a person who has done it would be much more likely to be the truth than what any for profit company will tell me, so thank god I found this board. I really want to believe that this modification will work, because I am of VERY limited means. I really can't throw the money at a pipe dream. The omission of the test leads me to believe this mod works, but I want to hear it from someone who has done it. Thanks in advance!

SVOboy · 06-23-2008, 06:50 PM

I wouldn't get into that big oil conspiracy crap. If there were anything to it the people with all their "patents" and "secrets" wouldn't be wasting their time spamming the ecomodder blog with fake comments. The automakers are falling all over themselves to make better cars, I don't think they'd ignore something that worked.

There are a few people on here I trust who have messed with it, but I've never heard anything conclusive or really positive about the concept.

Welcome to ecomodder!

trikkonceptz · 06-23-2008, 06:55 PM

Like you I am interested in building one of these devices to integrate into my current fuel system. I will build one, but like everything else it takes time. Now I have learned that their are several variations to the device which therefore may yield varying results.

I suggest you begin reading up on the different ways to seperate hydrogen from water in order to find the one that best suits you mechanical skill level plus budget.

Hopefully if I have my unit built sooner than later I can put it to the test and show off some positive results.

RacerX · 06-23-2008, 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=SVOboy;37579]I wouldn't get into that big oil conspiracy crap. If there were anything to it the people with all their "patents" and "secrets" wouldn't be wasting their time spamming the ecomodder blog with fake comments. The automakers are falling all over themselves to make better cars, I don't think they'd ignore something that worked.

For what it's worth....... My opinion...... If we can fly to the moon and walk on it.........We can......

RacerX · 06-23-2008, 07:13 PM

I agree with SVO boy about the spamming thing. What I mean is, I think the technology is there for automobiles to do better mpg wise. That's all I'll say. Now I'll get off my soap box. Sorry 'bout that...

Jigsaw · 06-23-2008, 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=SVOboy;37579]I wouldn't get into that big oil conspiracy crap. The automakers are falling all over themselves to make better cars, I don't think they'd ignore something that worked.

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Oh contrar. GM had a working EV AND infrastructure for the EV1 in the 90's. Guess what they did? Scrap it. Literally scrap the cars, the tech, the recharge stations, everything.
Can anyone guess what lame excuse they had for why they destroyed the project? Not because of tech, not because of cost.....get ready for it......because of demand. Sorry, when it comes down to selling an SUV that makes 300% profit plus residuals (maint. fluids, adjustments) vs. a car that doesn't have residual income (because the EV1 required almost no maintenance) it's not hard to see what happend.

The detractors of the electric car are correct. Given the limited speed and range, it could only meet the needs of 90% of the population.

On the bright side, as soon as we get that Eco-Apollo project started by the next Pres. we should have something better, cheaper, and cleaner than what we can all buy now.

RacerX · 06-23-2008, 08:08 PM

Back to the question at hand. I have seen several types of the Hydrogen add on's and was present while one of them was built. It made bubbles, but they ran it for a week or so and didn't see much of a difference... if any... I left that day with alot of questions flying around in my head. Like, How much Hydrogen does it make? If it's making hydrogen shouldn't you store it and or meter it before it goes into the engine? What other gases does it create? If there are other gases shouldn't those be separated from the hydrogen? Would it be better if it were compressed? Good Luck in your search for answers !!! If you get any info I'd be interested in hearing about it. Thanks

JamesLaugesen · 06-23-2008, 08:12 PM

A couple of guys from Melbourne (Aus) have been pedaling their HHO "invention" (just a typical DIY HHO setup as far as I could tell) on various news and current affairs shows, claiming success, and soon offering conversions from AU$1500... bahahha.

I'm a skeptic, I really don't believe a net gain in energy is possible considering the efficiency of splitting the water (alternator load, etc) and then running the hydrogen through the ICE.

But that said, I'd love to be proven wrong and it looks like a fun mod, so I'll have a crack at it I think

SVOboy · 06-23-2008, 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=Jigsaw;37602]

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Originally Posted by SVOboy

I wouldn't get into that big oil conspiracy crap. The automakers are falling all over themselves to make better cars, I don't think they'd ignore something that worked.

QUOTE]

Oh contrar. GM had a working EV AND infrastructure for the EV1 in the 90's. Guess what they did? Scrap it. Literally scrap the cars, the tech, the recharge stations, everything.
Can anyone guess what lame excuse they had for why they destroyed the project? Not because of tech, not because of cost.....get ready for it......because of demand. Sorry, when it comes down to selling an SUV that makes 300% profit plus residuals (maint. fluids, adjustments) vs. a car that doesn't have residual income (because the EV1 required almost no maintenance) it's not hard to see what happend.

The detractors of the electric car are correct. Given the limited speed and range, it could only meet the needs of 90% of the population.

On the bright side, as soon as we get that Eco-Apollo project started by the next Pres. we should have something better, cheaper, and cleaner than what we can all buy now.

Yeah, exactly. GM and Honda and Toyota and others all knew electric cars worked, and built them. They didn't try to suppress the information or kill anyone involved in the project, they admitted it worked and spent millions of dollars doing it.

I haven't seen anything like that come of these HHO kits.

Arminius · 06-23-2008, 08:27 PM

Since I was a kid, I've heard about the "super-secret patents" that could get a large car or truck 100 mpg, and that they were bought up and hidden by the "Big 3" or "Big Oil," or even "Big Electricity." That was 30 years ago. However, patents are public record and they expire. Those alleged "patents" expired long ago, and the alleged technology is now free for all the conspiracy buffs to use. If you believe in it, go get it. It's yours for FREEEEEEEEE! Go get it, boys!

Hell will freeze over sooner. (Of course, the technology to freeze hell was patented and bought up by a super-secret company.)