Why don't you demand courtesy from any and all topics?

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

"Being closed minded is not a choice". You make some points. Does it apply to ecomodder readers? Goodness, I hope not..

you do understand the 'BELL CURVE" from statistics?
Of course it applies to ecomodders.
it applies to a room full of quantum scientists. (as long as the sample size is large enough)

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

"But, understand, the mods have made it clear and I get that. Do you?..

been here 7 years......just never had a thread make it to the uni-corral.

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

"I am willing to abide the rules. Are you? Are others? That is all I'm asking. You seem to think I am asking for anything different. I am not.

[t vago]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

I am willing to abide the rules. Are you? Are others? That is all I'm asking. You seem to think I am asking for anything different. I am not.

Riiiiiiiiiight. That is why you shat all over my EGR thread two years ago. You were following the rules!

And since you want to speak in pithy clichés, here's another one: Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!

To me, an apology consists of two parts. First, the apologist must show real regret over whatever it is that prompted the apology. Second, there's an implicit promise made by the apologist to not repeat said behavior or action.

You, RustyLugNut, have shown neither trait. Until and unless you show some concrete proof of what you're preaching, you will continue to be considered to be a fraud. You've had two years since your disgraceful behavior with regard to my EGR thread, and you have NOTHING to show for it.

[Frank Lee]

I've had him on ignore for quite a long time. It is quite helpful.

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

And I hope people understand by now, I am quite capable of taking verbal abuse. It really doesn't bother me like it does others. So don't do it. I'll just take it and throw it right back at you. But, What really, really bugs me is having my train of thought derailed. I don't like anyone's train of thought derailed! Even threads that are not mine, but are an enjoyable read. I follow Oil Pan4's threads because he has a practical, hands on approach to finding solutions. And yes, I do the same with T_Vago because he has convinced me to purchase and try to program Arduino controllers. Even in their threads, I find posts that are better serviced in PMs or by waiting. It is just an irritant for me, but it reduces the pleasure of reading and following along. That is just in the normal thread. Imagine a reader trying to get any information out of any HHO thread. 99% of the posts will be tangential or defamatory.

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here is a GREAT (emphasis, not yelling) example!
You want threads to look, act and be a certain way. You clearly state that.
Yet there is not a perfect thread(by your standards)
I actually stated earlier that threads and forums our by nature clunky and dysfunctional.
Yet, you are 'closed minded' to this concept and keep (repeatedly) stating you 'want' something different. you ignore the reality of the forum world.

what you REALLY seem to want is a peer-review' environment.


"if only the threads flowed logically"

"Let me take the verbal abuse"


This is a FORUM. A PUBLIC FORUM.
you get what you pay for. (of course, you haven't even donated......)

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

But, What really, really bugs me is having my train of thought derailed. I don't like anyone's train of thought derailed! Even threads that are not mine, but are an enjoyable read. I follow Oil Pan4's threads because he has a practical, hands on approach to finding solutions. And yes, I do the same with T_Vago because he has convinced me to purchase and try to program Arduino controllers. Even in their threads, I find posts that are better serviced in PMs or by waiting. It is just an irritant for me, but it reduces the pleasure of reading and following along. .

So.....you start a thread about 'demanding courtesy' and keep breaking up the flow of topicality and 'train of thought' by interjecting facts about HHHH.

THAT. IS. EXACTLY. "what really, really bugs you" !!!!!!

[ChazInMT]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

As you pointed out and linked to, the H+ atom is VERY short lived. At it's creation in an electrolysis cell, it will immediately look for some way to be stable and will thus migrate to the negative plate, take on an electron and pair up with another H atom to form the diatomic H2 atom which is even more stable. This is of course a gas, which is bubbled out and which we are attempting to use in our engine under discussion.

The fact that H+ is so short lived due to it's reactivity is why it is called a radical. That H2 gas, in the combustion chamber, with enough conditions to add enough energy, dissociates back to a pair of H+ radicals. Since there is not near enough hydrogen to combust, the H+ is caught there in the nano seconds before ignition. But, it is not just sitting there. It is very reactive, as you linked to. It looks for something to do with it's reactivity. The C8H18 carbon chain is available and thus suffers the ravages. That is where the domino effect starts in. This happens billions of times a second at the flame front, but if it can be started before hand, we can gain that fraction of a second.

The thing I linked to says that H+ does not exist in a fluid, unless it is a melt yer bathtub (Breaking Bad) acid. The H2 isn't going to just spontaneously split....so when added Hydrogen is in your "Flamefront" it is just H2 till it finds some O2 to combine with.

Why are you insisting that H+ can possibly make it to the combustion chamber when presented with facts that say otherwise by outside sources?

You say that there is not enough H2 to combust, well duh. Nobody has ever ever purported that the H2 was the sole fuel source. (Well some have, but lets not go there) But, the gasoline vapors that are present in a 1000:1 ratio to your added H2 do indeed combust. The .1% H2 combines with O2 and combusts too.

I am VERY skeptical that the H2 in the exact moment of its combustion separates into 2 hydrons and goes around knocking apart a bunch of long chain hydrocarbons, which are themselves in the process of being conflagerated.

Where is your link to a non HHO derived paper or something addressing the "Ravaging" "Shredding" effect of H2 on fuel vapor either in the intake plenum or the combustion chamber? I can find a few papers on aerocap additions to pickup trucks written by PhD candidates & such. Certainly something like H2 seeding of an ICE fuel stream for improved performance has been written about.

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

And I hope people understand by now, I am quite capable of taking verbal abuse. It really doesn't bother me like it does others. So don't do it. I'll just take it and throw it right back at you. But, What really, really bugs me is having my train of thought derailed. I don't like anyone's train of thought derailed!
.

.....the 'verbal attacks' you throw right back......

The truth, however, keeps you from returning

[RustyLugNut]

Originally Posted by t vago

Riiiiiiiiiight. That is why you shat all over my EGR thread two years ago. You were following the rules!

And since you want to speak in pithy clichés, here's another one: Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!

To me, an apology consists of two parts. First, the apologist must show real regret over whatever it is that prompted the apology. Second, there's an implicit promise made by the apologist to not repeat said behavior or action.

You, RustyLugNut, have shown neither trait. Until and unless you show some concrete proof of what you're preaching, you will continue to be considered to be a fraud. You've had two years since your disgraceful behavior with regard to my EGR thread, and you have NOTHING to show for it.

I used you as an example. Do you understand that.

As you see in my other posts, I don't rip apart threads like I did yours. It was to show to the readers how easy it is to undo a perfectly good post from a well respected member.

Get over it. No more apologies to you. You have a narcissistic streak that is not becoming of you.

[RustyLugNut]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

I've had him on ignore for quite a long time. It is quite helpful.

. . . easy to ignore. And I don't even try.

[RustyLugNut]

Originally Posted by mcrews

.....the 'verbal attacks' you throw right back......

The truth, however, keeps you from returning

. . . thus you attack the messenger. Really nice of you. Keep spending your energies here. I am not going away based on a few threatening personalities.

I do get numerous emails and IM's supporting my position. YOU are certainly not speaking for the rest of the forum.

And I spend my Saturday's tutoring students in science and math. It is something I have always felt strongly about and thus spend my time supporting. This weekend was elementary age and some middle school. Science and math go hand in hand and catching them young can spark their desire and intellect.

I then spent my Sunday supporting the Homeless Veterans Stand Down here in San Diego. Our homeless vets suffer severely even with the local killer now in custody.

Your desire to continue posting scathing and implied put downs is really very unbecoming.