Actually there was a guy that did make a formula ford street legal. You can get any gear ratios for a Hewland gearbox so he did make one setup for road driving. I drove mine on the road once after I put a diffrent gear set in. Sometimes you can put the cluster gears on backwards so I diin't know back then. Now I can do it blindfolded in 15min, start to finish all four gears. Our first gear is like 3rd gear in a street car, so I didn't shift much, just drove it around the neighborhood.
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If a person could put covers over the wheel/tire assemblies, i.e. Aptera, and put your T/S lights on them, you'd sure have one lightweight aero car, there! How much do they weigh, BTW??? I'd LOVE to do one as an EV, and if the rearend is separate from the tranny, (Heard about Hewlands - just don't know anything about them...) just belt drive the rearend with a couple of separately-tensioned belts, or maybe a CVT off of some small rig. Shoot, as light as they are, maybe just a single-speed direct drive!
Hey, do you know of any of those that don't qualify to race anymore, that are for sale real cheap??? (Yeah, wishful thinking, there... and like I really have the money to do it right now... )
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Heck with the electrics, boring. No the hewlands are all one piece. Thats where the oil tank is for the dry sump and no you cant substitute it, thats where all the suspention ties on to. Ya need a motor man! But there so aero you don't need much. A formula ford does an honest 130mph EASY on a 125hp. Thats only limited by the straights we run. Now it takes a lot of time to get that fast and you have to be good on the previous corner but it will do quite well. When I started driving I had an 84 Vette, my Ford (thats what we call Formula Fords) was just as quick if I geared it for a short road coarse. I can get it faster if I geared it for a slolom coarse.
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Hey, do you know of any of those that don't qualify to race anymore, that are for sale real cheap??? (Yeah, wishful thinking, there... and like I really have the money to do it right now... )
Tons of them; the slolom race guys get those. These are like the out of date chassis that aren't competitive any more.
They have to weigh 1100 with driver (and his suit, helmet etc.) so take 200 off of that
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Shoot, as light as they are, maybe just a single-speed direct drive
Nah boring; you really want a Hewland. Once you hear one, your addicted
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You can get plans from somewhere to build an F1 or IRL frame/suspension from everyday components, I just can't remember where I found it.
The plans were like $100, and all materials were like $500 total... then actually building the thing, welding, etc. Estimated cost, w/o drivetrain was like $5000.
It could be adapted to use just about any engine/transmission/rear end you could think of, as long as it wasn't longitudinally mounted (for whatever reason, they specifically noted this.)
Obviously, you'd never get it licensed as a formula or F1 or IRL car, but you could easily get it street legal in most states.
No you can't, and I'll tell you why, cause they don't have frames. Christ I've been in this since 1977 All with great drivers, top notch equipment and a national championship. Now you really don't know what your talking about. And as far as an IRL Chassis or an FI car you need an Autoclave, not a welder. As far as the $5000, well you can by the bodywork for a club racing Formula Ford for about 2 grand. And where are you going to use these "everyday components"? Not with me strapped in it, or my driver. And they don't have "rear ends" they use a transaxles and those will cost you $5000 new $2000 used and you can't adapt any others cause there only two companys making them and the suspension mounts up to them so you can't garbage that together either. But hey, nice try.
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Mistyped that one. Maybe you didn't notice that I said they wouldn't ever be able to be used as F1 or IRL cars, as they're not even close to the same thing... they're basically replicars.
It's like building a tube chassis for a car that you would find on the road normally, using the body work from it, but making a shell race car out of it.
late model and 358 racers use modified tube chassis, and call them "frames" which is why I said "frame" instead of tube chassis or structure. The main point of the kit is to be able to make a car that "looks" like the real thing, although obviously not handling or working to a full extent like it.
The drivetrain components were not included in the kit, just like older Noble model vehicles... the owner's responsibility was to install those bits and adapt the chassis to them.
Like I said, the plans were to build a replica F1/IRL car, not the actual thing.
This is almost the kit I was talking about, but probably more expensive and it's a sideXside two seater. This one is based on the champ/IRL chassis of the 2000 era, I believe. That kit is a more design-specific application, like the fact that it's specifically designed for only a very few engine combinations, primarily the 911 from 1972, aluminum block.
I honestly wonder why you would venture to call me a liar without fully understanding that which I speak of... quite obviously, you could have used Google to search for something like "IRL replica kit", to prove that these kits do in fact exist.
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Heres a Lola Sports 2000 class Intrigue, it will make a better street conversion, They are more areo than an open wheel car, they have a higher top speed than our type of car and there has to be two seats in them. With a 2 liter ford engine they weigh 1310lbs with the driver
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but all I can think of is "man, a 900 pound car! I wonder what the mpg would be with a small diesel in it???" 
