Wind turbines

[Ecky]

Fair. And your feelings if your (hypothetical) neighbors to the north started burning coal?

[oil pan 4]

I don't even know for sure I can get coal so I doubt any one else will be able to either.
If I do get coal it will take a lot of work.
Most people just do what's easy and burn natural gas, propane, use a heat pump around here.

Natural gas costs $30 a month when I don't use it, propane is in the running for the top 2 most expensive ways to heat your home and none of them work when used in a central heating system if the power goes out.
The coal furnace requires 2 blowers that only draw about 100 watts each and I have a forklift battery with power inverter in the garage.

My start up cost for natural gas is at least $4,000.

[Ecky]

I'm seeing the implication that if you had neighbors on all sides who were as enterprising as you are, and were able and willing to get this going, you probably either wouldn't want them as neighbors or wouldn't want to live where you're at, surrounded by coal burners. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting.

[oil pan 4]

Considering the nearest neighbors are around 1/4 mile away I doubt that I would notice.
The nearest neighbor to the north, I can climb on my roof and barely see them. So they are probably around 2 miles away.

[thingstodo]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

About $8,000 or 4 volt packs depending on your definition of new. Couldn't drive it because the batteries weigh more than the STATED load capacity, BUT.....

I guess I'd list the 4 Volt packs as 'recycled' since they would come out of wrecks instead of off-the-shelf ...

My tentative plan has been to put an AC motor and controller under the hood, saving not very much weight from the V6. Driving a simplified transmission ... I hear powerglides are sometimes used for this task ... driving the original drive shafts, And putting most of the pack beneath the bed, where the truck is designed to haul loads. A bit of battery weight would be put as low as possible under the hood to top up the weight on the front axles to original.

DC/DC converter, charger, etc should not be enough weight to make a difference where they fit.

The whole dash is CANbus anyway. Re-tasking it to show what I need would require some re-labeling. It will take time.

Overall, mods to the frame will be required. I'm not good enough at mechanical stuff to design battery racks that can use ONLY existing holes and brackets. Since mods are required, getting it certified for on-road use will take some effort. SIGH!

But I my get there eventually.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

But it doesn't work at night with out huge thermal storage.

Which is pretty straightforward to do. We are building molten salt underground thermal storage.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by Stubby79

Wow, we're screwed.

We are screwing ourselves - and the rest of life on earth.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

Which is pretty straightforward to do. We are building molten salt underground thermal storage.

Electrical to molten salt to electrical? Where? How much storage? And what is the round trip efficiency?

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

Which is pretty straightforward to do. We are building molten salt underground thermal storage.

Do we have any working examples?
Because it just so happens I'm an investigating thermal storage. At the moment a slightly used electric hot water heater with some antifreeze is how its looking.

[freebeard]

Home brew? Pix?