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Old 12-09-2017, 11:31 AM   #641 (permalink)
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The Carbon pulse is inherently temporary and creating hockey sticks everywhere we look. Population, economy/standard of living, food production, marine life depletion from over-fishing. acidification, warming.
Acidification and warming have positive feedbacks which can kick in.
Do we care about future generations at all? Wouldn't some crude oil be useful to them in 1,000 years. Metals? A living ocean? 100,000 years? Wouldn't they enjoy seeing diverse wildlife? These are your children.
The carbon pulse is not just about warming. Or not to warm. As carbon availability tips over the top this century, the economy will follow. This is a huge blind spot. There will be an end to growth like it or not. The current Ponzi scheme will end. It would be much more humane to accept this and start planning for it. Economy/ standard of living and food production will follow it down. Phosphate fertilizer reserves may be depleted before crude oil. Growing corn to feed it to cars or beef will one day become too calorie inefficient.
1 barrel of oil contains the same energy as many years worth of hard human labor. Economists and politicians have no inkling of this relationship with our fossil slaves. All of the economic models we use to guide us were formed during this magic, one time carbon pulse and will soon no longer apply.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:43 PM   #642 (permalink)
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The mann hockey stick graph the corner stone of man made global warming and a complete work of fiction too.
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:12 PM   #643 (permalink)
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Totally fake. And Big Pavement strongarmed Miami Beach into paving their roads higher because they wanted to sell more asphalt.



According to NOAA.

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...?stnid=8723170

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8723170 Miami Beach, Florida


The mean sea level trend is 2.39 millimeters/year with a 95% confidence
interval of +/- 0.43 mm/yr based on monthly mean sea level data from
1931 to 1981 which is equivalent to a change of 0.78 feet in 100 years.
The trend of sea level rise is linear, not accelerating.

.0940 inches per year (approximately the thickness of 3 human hairs)

Perfectly consistent with coming out of a ice age.



Now for the picture...

Florida sits on a aquifer and is relatively flat. They have to raise the roadway to have positive drainage as putting drainage pipes below the surface of the existing grade would not drain the water away sufficiently enough since Miami's elevation is close to sea level.

Miami has also seen a resurgence in growth. Thus more hard landscape which is impermeable. Roads, driveways, roofs, parking lots, bike paths, tennis courts, basketball courts and even shuttle board all contribute to the overload on the drainage system.

Miami, New Orleans and other cities that were built and or continue to build near water and or in flood plains, are going to have these problems.

The answer is quiet simple...

Don't build in these problematic areas.

I "highly" doubt Denver has a drainage problem...



On a side note.

I hope they put up side rails so pedestrians don't fall off the sidewalk. I also wouldn't want to be sitting there at a table and have a distracted driver jump the curb and flatten me.

One can only imagine the smell of the exhaust from vehicles driving by while your trying to enjoy your food...

Not to mention the carbon monoxide (CO) gas poisoning you.



In ending.

Sometimes a picture doesn't tell the whole story...



Have a great day...





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Old 12-09-2017, 01:35 PM   #644 (permalink)
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Hockey stick charts related to fossil carbon consumption are all around us in several seemingly unrelated things. Just a few.
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Coal, oil, and gas up from the bottom. Anybody really think we will make the sacrices to our economy necessary to drastically change the look of this? Before it just plain runs out of reach and the changes are forced on us?
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"A" is when all of our modern economic theories were developed which is a very warped view compared to how things always were and how they will be again.
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theguardian.com:Why did climate scientists emit 30,000 tonnes of C02 this weekend?

25,000 scientists. Who was left minding the store?

Strangely enough, IIRC the last time I flew was to a software conference in New Orleans. For a company called Avant-Garde Publishing Co. Inc. (you've probably never heard of them. ), in 1985.
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Air travel is often more fuel efficient than driving. 737s can get 100 passenger miles per gallon.

That said, I often wonder why people waste their time and money commuting when they can accomplish what they need from home.

I've been flying to Vegas about once per month for training over the last year. 95% of what I learned could have been done remotely, although I can see the importance of ensuring students are focused and not distracted by home things.

Efficiency will improve with time as the "sharing" economy and values continue to develop. For instance, fewer hotels will be built now that people rent under-utilized homes. Fewer cars are dedicated taxis now that any car owner can provide taxi service.

As society gets more comfortable with paying for things as a service rather than owning rarely utilized products, the need to build these products in quantity will decrease.
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When I had mandatory on-line Army training, I skipped to the test whenever possible. If I needed to click through endless slides, I used an app to click for me.

Is meeting the required training hours more important than passing the test?

Possibly, when your Sergeant gave you the answers.

The questions were usually in a random order, though, and I read fast, so I found it easier to just read and answer the questions honestly, until I did the same training enough times to remember the questions and answers.
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Even if this is off by a factor of 5, then what? From 2011
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These graphs are always meaningless because they represent a static set of parameters. They assume a static rate of consumption, static price, static rate of new production, etc.

We saw the US produce the majority of its own fuels when the prices were super high a few years back. This is because new sources of fuel become profitable when oil hits certain prices. In other words, we will never run out of anything; demand will decrease as cost increases.

Alternative energy will be adopted as they become cheaper than fossil fuels. This will happen both from fossil fuels increasing in price, and alternative energy decreasing in price. We are already seeing places like Hawaii where renewable energy is cheaper than grid energy.

Wishing or stressing about energy won't much affect reality; that market forces will ultimately determine where our energy will come from.

Should I check this thread in 13 years to see if antimony ran out? Any wagers that antimony will be gone in 15 years?

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