12-08-2017, 01:12 AM
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No one is denying climate change.
Who believes the last ice age didn't happen and the earths climate has never changed?
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12-08-2017, 03:28 PM
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All the evidence indicate that humans are causing the climate to change.
It is the climate deniers who need to follow the money. Fossil fuel companies' profits are what is driving the FUD.
Science on the other hand, stand on the evidence.
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12-08-2017, 05:45 PM
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When evidence is manipulated and falsified it all ways looks the way it's supposed to.
The man made global warming movement committed suicide the moment people started conspiring to falsify data to make it look like they were correct.
You can thank the people in charge of these studies for destroying it.
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1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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12-08-2017, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4
When evidence is manipulated and falsified it all ways looks the way it's supposed to.
The man made global warming movement committed suicide the moment people started conspiring to falsify data to make it look like they were correct.
You can thank the people in charge of these studies for destroying it.
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How dare you point out the obvious.
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12-08-2017, 08:30 PM
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All the evidence indicate that humans are causing the climate to change
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Well, carbon emissions did stave off that Ice Age we've been expecting since the 1970s, but how long can we keep it up?
Solar forcing rules.
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12-09-2017, 08:51 AM
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People have called man made global warming a house of cards. The believers wish wish their religion was a solid as a house of cards, more and more every day it's looking more like a house of lies, built upon a foundation of lies.
https://www.drovers.com/article/live...-may-be-faulty
I thought they were cherry picking data, until people were caught red handed manipulating and making up data. Endangering the credibility of all science.
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1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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12-09-2017, 11:31 AM
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The Carbon pulse is inherently temporary and creating hockey sticks everywhere we look. Population, economy/standard of living, food production, marine life depletion from over-fishing. acidification, warming.
Acidification and warming have positive feedbacks which can kick in.
Do we care about future generations at all? Wouldn't some crude oil be useful to them in 1,000 years. Metals? A living ocean? 100,000 years? Wouldn't they enjoy seeing diverse wildlife? These are your children.
The carbon pulse is not just about warming. Or not to warm. As carbon availability tips over the top this century, the economy will follow. This is a huge blind spot. There will be an end to growth like it or not. The current Ponzi scheme will end. It would be much more humane to accept this and start planning for it. Economy/ standard of living and food production will follow it down. Phosphate fertilizer reserves may be depleted before crude oil. Growing corn to feed it to cars or beef will one day become too calorie inefficient.
1 barrel of oil contains the same energy as many years worth of hard human labor. Economists and politicians have no inkling of this relationship with our fossil slaves. All of the economic models we use to guide us were formed during this magic, one time carbon pulse and will soon no longer apply.
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12-09-2017, 12:43 PM
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The mann hockey stick graph the corner stone of man made global warming and a complete work of fiction too.
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12-09-2017, 01:12 PM
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Totally fake. And Big Pavement strongarmed Miami Beach into paving their roads higher because they wanted to sell more asphalt.
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According to NOAA.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...?stnid=8723170
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Mean Sea Level Trend
8723170 Miami Beach, Florida
The mean sea level trend is 2.39 millimeters/year with a 95% confidence
interval of +/- 0.43 mm/yr based on monthly mean sea level data from
1931 to 1981 which is equivalent to a change of 0.78 feet in 100 years.
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The trend of sea level rise is linear, not accelerating.
.0940 inches per year (approximately the thickness of 3 human hairs)
Perfectly consistent with coming out of a ice age.
Now for the picture...
Florida sits on a aquifer and is relatively flat. They have to raise the roadway to have positive drainage as putting drainage pipes below the surface of the existing grade would not drain the water away sufficiently enough since Miami's elevation is close to sea level.
Miami has also seen a resurgence in growth. Thus more hard landscape which is impermeable. Roads, driveways, roofs, parking lots, bike paths, tennis courts, basketball courts and even shuttle board all contribute to the overload on the drainage system.
Miami, New Orleans and other cities that were built and or continue to build near water and or in flood plains, are going to have these problems.
The answer is quiet simple...
Don't build in these problematic areas.
I "highly" doubt Denver has a drainage problem...
On a side note.
I hope they put up side rails so pedestrians don't fall off the sidewalk. I also wouldn't want to be sitting there at a table and have a distracted driver jump the curb and flatten me.
One can only imagine the smell of the exhaust from vehicles driving by while your trying to enjoy your food...
Not to mention the carbon monoxide (CO) gas poisoning you.
In ending.
Sometimes a picture doesn't tell the whole story...
Have a great day...
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12-09-2017, 01:35 PM
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Hockey stick charts related to fossil carbon consumption are all around us in several seemingly unrelated things. Just a few.
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Coal, oil, and gas up from the bottom. Anybody really think we will make the sacrices to our economy necessary to drastically change the look of this? Before it just plain runs out of reach and the changes are forced on us?
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