12-22-2017, 04:00 PM
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They were all pretty close. Give it another 50 years. And the sad thing is we will have done nothing to get ready because of these unrealistic concepts that keep getting put forward like harvesting asteroids and transmitting 100's of TerraWatts of power via em waves. Can't happen. And they will hate us for wasting everything we did have on cruise ships and football stadiums.There is no gleaming techno salvation for 11 Billion people. We need to wake up and focus what we have left.
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12-22-2017, 06:56 PM
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Enjoy your pessimistic fugue, but I, for one, am not going to defend cruise ships.
Football stadiums OTOH become important when it's time for the excess population to be congregated for their free helicopter rides.
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12-22-2017, 09:12 PM
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Big difference between pessimistic and pragmatic.
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12-22-2017, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4
Oh and the polar ice caps were supposed to be long gone by 2010.
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They were all pretty close. Give it another 50 years... And they will hate us for wasting everything we did have on cruise ships and football stadiums.There is no gleaming techno salvation for 11 Billion people. We need to wake up and focus what we have left.
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When I was a kid in the 80s, the Northwest Passage was a thing in history books like El Dorado- a nonexistent thing that Great Men died searching for.
Now it's just another route for cruise ships:
https://www.adventure-life.com/northwest-passage
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12-23-2017, 12:30 AM
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What would be pragmatic would be to focus intent. The life lesson of Guinea Pig B (R. B. Fuller) was that a single individual with sufficient insight and logical rigor can steer society in preferred directions.
On his tombstone it says Call Me Trimtab;
Sect. 5, Bio of Buckminster Fuller: 1976 - 1983 - Buckminster Fuller's Synergy Solutions for Today
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12-23-2017, 08:46 AM
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North west passage being open sounds like a good thing to me.
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12-23-2017, 09:06 AM
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Russia and Europe gain a big advantage in outsourcing heavy production to China with the Northern passage open for shipping.
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12-23-2017, 11:41 AM
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Northwest passage is bad, because global warming is bad, because change is always bad.
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12-24-2017, 04:06 PM
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I pronounce man made global warming dead.
Not just dead, dead and bloated.
After 2 decades of failed climate predictions we are looking at nothing but cooling climate changers.
Beaufort gyre being stalled with cold water, think 1970s "global cooling"
10 year plus over due for a mount pinatubo magnitude eruption, 2 up to 3 years -1°C then another year or so of -1°F global cooling
Grand solar minimum, think little ice age.
If the next ice age doesn't start, but it could take 100 years to know for sure that the next ice age has indeed started.
2 of those are going to happen soon.
If more than 2 happen we are going to wish we had a lot more man made global warming.
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12-24-2017, 07:51 PM
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Good, we need to move on to talking about ruggedizing infrastructure against natural causes. We'll always have seasteading.
I talked by phone with Wolf Hilbertz in the 1980s. He showed how to create structures out of a metal armature, seawater and electricity. I still have the original monograph somewhere.
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Hilbertz laid down the foundation for the discipline of Cybertecture, emergent all-encompassing evolutionary environmental systems, and invented/developed the mineral accretion process in seawater.
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https://fr.pinterest.com/explore/arc...-903992146713/*
*amazing stuff on that page.
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