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Old 12-17-2018, 06:07 PM   #4161 (permalink)
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Another comparison:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent
So the average yearly electricity usage of an American household equals about 10 ton of TNT.
That's quite a blast. One Hiroshima bomb for every village of 1500 homes, yearly.

Al Gore will likely use one Hiroshima equivalent in his lifetime, alone.
How inconvenient.

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Old 12-17-2018, 06:24 PM   #4162 (permalink)
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He probably have criminal genes (sociopath)
We all start off as utter sociopaths, completely unable to even understand the concept of other people. Growing up is a process of shedding sociopathy, but some of us are faster at learning this than others.
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Energy per capta???

Well, how much it's also from industries (energy consumed by a country divided by the number of population ? WHat is the energy per capta for just home consumers and schools worplace (lighting and heating and cooling of rooms) and energy for meals and services like cleaning, clothes washing?

Is that graphic including industries energy connsumed too ?



Home and workplace rooms alone it's one thing. Industry it's another, very different.
I always assumed it was all energy consumed divided by the population. So all transportation, mining, farming, industry, infrastructure, electricity, heat, everything. So any country that is a net exporter will have some of the energy embodied in goods that are not theirs.
 
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I agree with you. But the problem it's to make it worldwide, since if we tax too much the country get less competitive with other countries that don't give a damn to ecology or to the planet's future.
That is the big problem with trying to change things with a carbon tax . It would have to be the same world wide to be fair. And would ideally be applied immediately as the carbon leaves the ground so that the market pricing is directly affected. Although it is much easier to tax the purchase of the final product. Who collects and who disperses the revenue? This would be a tax and a pay raise for 90% of our virtual workers and finish crushing the lower classes and crash the economy unless it was given back progressively to people with less income.
 
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That's not what neuropsychiatry or even your friend uncle Jordan Peterson tells.

Sociopath already born without empathy, with a brain area nearly without activity. Most sociopath behavior kids and teens have a incredible high chance of became criminals.

It have genes involved.

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That's not what neuropsychiatry or even your friend uncle Jordan Peterson tells.

Sociopath already born without empathy, with a brain area nearly without activity. Most sociopath behavior kids and teens have a incredible high chance of became criminals.

It have genes involved.
Of course, but we all start out with sociopathic behavior. Genes play a big role in overcoming sociopathy, but environment has a lot to do with it too.
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Environment modulates it, for worse for for less horrible, but the sociopath itself it's defined during childhood and teens, or earlier.

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Perhaps in the clinical sense, but we all know teens are sociopaths.
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Just because you did sh...t during teen's times it doesn't mean it's natural. Maybe in USA the culture of selfisf, greed, bullying, popularity, being placed above human values leaded teens to get horrible.
When I was teen I hated most teens cause I found their values a garbage, but many wasn't that way, like most was trying to get along, and cret...ns stupid teacher saw that as natural and used to tell the survivors (ones that didn't mixed with such crap) that they had problems in socialize with the others, socialization problems. I would like to get back in time and kick such teachers in the a...

If you keep judging stupid and cret...ns teens as normal you can't blame society for be similar.

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Of course, but we all start out with sociopathic behavior. Genes play a big role in overcoming sociopathy, but environment has a lot to do with it too.
Respect to All Darc's uncle JP, but I accept dear old Timothy Leary's theory of the eight circuit brain. You can't call a toddler a sociopath, they simply haven't had the higher brain circuits activated.

The problems A. D. sees with people come from meme transmissions from the older generations. There is always hope for the next one.

And that Carbon Tax (immediate, worldwide and enforceable) is fraught with peril.

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