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Old 09-27-2013, 02:35 PM   #101 (permalink)
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this one could be more tricky...
Yeah. I guess it would have to be the TPS, and not the speed sensor. TPS showing no throttle and neutral selected in the trans = off. Shift into gear and touch throttle = on.

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Old 09-09-2014, 02:19 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Red for stop, green for go. I wanted to put an auxiliary start button straight ahead of the shifter so as I start, my palm is on the shifter so when I pull away from the start button I can pull the shifter back into drive in the same movement. The lock cylinder on the car is a lil floppy, and kinda awkward to use while driving
The injector kill uses a NC relay wired through a fuse tap with a fuse slot for the tap, allowing the factory wiring to remain intact, and so that the kill can be electronically removed by just installing the fuse to the original location. Power returns back through the lower fuse slot(difficult to see in pic) on a wire with a fuse leg soldered onto a wire
Starter setup is a pretty standard relay setup wired directly to the starter terminal, again to leave the factory wiring intact



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This is something I could try in my car, very clean setup.

I'm no electrician but this seem simple enough for my skills.

So if I understand correctly, you put a relay with a switch connected to the injectors fuse?

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2000mc

This is something I could try in my car, very clean setup.

I'm no electrician but this seem simple enough for my skills.

So if I understand correctly, you put a relay with a switch connected to the injectors fuse?

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Omg I want to know how he did this as well, it would solve my problem I'm having with trying to get a kill-switch in my car!
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I'm going that way too, thanks to Jedi Sol's excellent explanation of his own work. This is what I have lined up for mine:

A normally closed, momentary open pushbutton switch
A relay and socket
Some connectors
A "Fuse Buddy"



Basically, just looking at the add-a-circuit makes me think "I see how I can get power from it, but how do I open and cloer the circuit with just the one wire?" The Fuse Buddy made more sense to me- one wire on one side and one wire on the other. I cut the leads off and I'm just waiting for some time to solder everything together and drill a discretely placed hole to mount the button.

I did test it- I put the Fuse Buddy in the injector fuse slot, held the wires together and started up. After I got rolling I separated the wires, then put them back together, bump started and parked the car. And promptly haven't had any time to put it together properly.
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This is something I could try in my car, very clean setup.

I'm no electrician but this seem simple enough for my skills.

So if I understand correctly, you put a relay with a switch connected to the injectors fuse?

Thanks
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Yes, the fuse tap thing is plugged into the slot for the injector fuse. The relay is a 5 pin, power from the tap feeds pins 30, and 86. Pin 85 is connected to the wire leaving the fuse box, going to the normally open momentary switch, the other side of the switch is connected to ground. Pin 87a (the normally closed output) is wired back to the fuse taps lower right slot to send power to the injectors. Pin 87(normally open output) is not used.
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Omg I want to know how he did this as well, it would solve my problem I'm having with trying to get a kill-switch in my car!
Do you have a Factory Service Manual or at least a copy of Honda's wiring diagram for your car?

I'd bet your Insight is like my Civic and this fuse tap won't work. Honda likes to use switched grounds and the fuse will interrupt power to several different components in my Civic, including the immobilizer. On the 7th gen Civics you need to interrupt the yellow/black wire that provides power to the injectors (and a few other engine related sensors).

Details here (starting at post #35):
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post376989
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My car is a Fiat Bravo 1.4 T-jet and uses a 12V battery
Is this the relay I need?

1x Changeover 12V 5pin Relay Switch for Auto Car Boat 12V 40A 30A Black | eBay

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My car is a Fiat Bravo 1.4 T-jet and uses a 12V battery
Is this the relay I need?

1x Changeover 12V 5pin Relay Switch for Auto Car Boat 12V 40A 30A Black | eBay

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that one would work in the same way as the one i used, but as long as you're ordering one, i would find one like it that comes with a connector and a little wire on it.

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