08-22-2020, 12:00 PM
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It's the ASKING price not the sold price.
If you go back enough pages in a google search for the address, sometimes you can find the earlier listing.
I'm like redpoint, I will modify how I want (but always with an eye towards resale) a funky beater house. Common for me to say to the showng realtor "that wall is toast".
I even have a 30 year old wall eraser. The outside door to one room of my current house fell down the other day and won't be missed.
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08-22-2020, 06:34 PM
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For some reason I needed to try three different browsers before Zillow's search worked--except it didn't. It says "Show Low," but shows houses that sold over an hour away. I did not see any way to narrow it down.
This one is an hour away:
Did they wait for a thunderstorm to take the picture?!
Now with Light at 100% and Pop at 50% in Google Images!
Did they rename Contrast?
I feel like something will go wrong since I have two images and one attachment. Anyway, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,794 square feet on half an acre for $160,468.
How often do people negotiate houses down to the dollar?
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08-22-2020, 06:43 PM
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Houses are too expensive these days, at least around me. Better to buy a piece of land and build your own house, and of course add a fence and gate to keep out unwanted intruders.
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08-22-2020, 09:12 PM
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I keep seeing that it costs 30% more to build a house compared to buying one, but wouldn't the newer one have better insulation, safer materials, and options that weren't available decades ago?
I know that we have discussed building a house before. Does anyone remember? I don't feel like reviewing over 400 posts right now!
I cannot find any lots for sale within the city limits.
So, the houses that sold in the last 90 days:
This beauty. I asked Dawn for a video tour and she did not get back to me until after it sold:
3 bedrooms, 1.5 baths, 1,560 Square Feet, .5 acres, 2-car garage, and $119 per square foot.
The lame house that lame Dawn lamely tried to sell me:
Listed for $198,900 on 2/18/2020
Reduced to $184,900 on 4/10/2020
Reduced to 174,900 on 4/26/2020
Reduced to 169,900 on 5/25/2020
Pending on 7/12/2020
Removed on 8/5/2020
Sold on 8/17/2020--allegedly for $169,900, but I absolutely do not believe. They lowered the price 3 times in 3 months, but refused to go any further for the next 3? I tried pulling up county records, but it is a slow site, our Internet is slow, and Lappy keeps crashing.
3 bedroms, 2 baths, converted garage, and 1,820 square feet on an oversized lot for $169,000" "$93 per square foot"
I stand corrected. Allegedly the price came down $900 in 90 days.
This house:
3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,092, and the clearly-visible one-car carport. $156 per square foot.
They didn't say that it was remodeled, but they definitely seem to describe it.
Except I was in that house while a family rented there. Looking at these pictures I just thought they cleaned it up.
So, restored?
This house:
This garage:
It is bigger than most 3-bedrooms that I see, but a 2-story house isn't safe for Mom. She has fallen down a couple of times on level ground.
2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,362 square feet, 1,200-square-foot garage on 1.24 acres for $195,000. $143 per square foot.
This house that I never knew was for sale. Zillow's entire history for it is "Sold." The picture is from Google Maps. Shall I drive by?
1,946 square feet for $121,000. $62 per square foot!
Fixer-upper?
This one that I only remember seeing on CraigsList. I guess that I need to check there again:
4 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,352 square feet on almost two acres, but no covered parking. $139,000 and $103 per square foot.
Another house that never appeared for sale. Zillow, you have failed me for the last time! [attempts to force-choke a website]
I cannot find any useful information from the next several home search sites that I checked. 3 bedrooms, 3 baths, 2,165 square feet on 9,583 square feet for $175,000! $81 per square foot!
3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,214 square feet, and it looks like a converted one-car garage. $159,000 and $131 per square foot.
The third one that I never saw:
3 bedrooms, 1.75 baths, 1,484 square feet and a one-car garage for $190,000. $128 per square foot.
#4:
Bizarre. It seems that one attachment disappeared when I added that one. Please let me know if I am missing one or more pictures!
3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,165 square feet, but not necessarily any covered parking. $104,000 and $89 per square foot.
#5
Another picture from Google Maps:
1,946 square feet and .61 acres for $165,000; $85 per square foot.
3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 2-car garage, and 1,238 square feet for $189,000. $153 per square foot.
3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,474 square feet, and a 2-car garage for $189,000. $128 per square foot.
3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,441 square feet, but no covered parking. $180,000 and $125 per square foot.
#6 No Google Maps street view. 1,224 square feet for $110,000 and $90 per square foot.
#7 No street view and no specified square footage. $170,000 for what?
#8 $200,000 for 1,158 square feet. $173 per square foot.
You are welcome to check out the unimpressive pictures for yourself, but Mom is yelling at me. $170,000 for 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,672 square feet, and a one-car garage. I believe that it has an addition. We found it while looking at Dawn's house. $102 per square foot.
Fair pictures. 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1,122 square feet for $185,000; $165 per square foot for some reason.
Zillow does not even show that this one sold, but my neighbor says that he knows the family that bought and moved into it. He says they paid $170,000 for some reason. It had dry rot on the roof fascia, drywall damage in every room, and missing kitchen cabinet doors and drawers. Hopefully they fixed all of that. It seems they fixed the fascia. $175 per square foot for absolutely no reason.
Nineteen houses sold in 90 days and 7 had not been listed for sale. I will average the price per square foot and update my spreadsheet later.
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08-22-2020, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist
I keep seeing that it costs 30% more to build a house compared to buying one, but wouldn't the newer one have better insulation, safer materials, and options that weren't available decades ago?
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Maybe so, but that probably doesn't consider the cost of remodeling or updating the building to code if it's older.
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08-23-2020, 01:07 AM
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Have you heard of Matt Risinger?
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08-23-2020, 03:27 AM
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Oddly, this sales data overlapped with my spreadsheet, but I believe that two houses showed both times. I saw several houses today that weren't listed the last time, while I needed to insert houses that I found today among sales that I previously recorded. The average for these houses was $119.36 per square foot, with a low of $62, and a high of $173. Discarding those, it ranges from $81 to $165, averaging $119.67.
Interesting how those balance out.
The 90-day average is $117.09 and the average to date on 77 sales going back to 5/13/2019 is $114.37.
I want to put addresses for the neighbor's house and the 2,165-square-foot house on a card if we see anyone stopping to look at our neighbor's house. A similar house sold for almost $60,000 less several months ago? A 70% larger house also sold for almost $60,000 less recently?
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08-24-2020, 11:16 PM
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How often do people negotiate houses down to the dollar?
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When we sold our first house the buyer negotiated things down to the light bulbs. (We had CFL bulbs in every fixture and the purchase agreement said they had to stay with the house)
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09-09-2020, 05:23 PM
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Talk about your fixer upper--Timon
This hit the market last night: 1 bedroom, 1 bath, 813 square feet, on .32 acres 20 minutes from town for $50,000.
This is the best picture of the house? It is the first one!
That deck needs to be redone!
The roof needs to be redone!
No HVAC data. As far as I know it just has that wood stove and all of the windows and glass doors.
The ceiling is cool, but people have a history of turning cool spaces into extra rooms. Can you lower those beams and put in a loft?
How about turning that space with the blue furniture into another room?
Integrated small and cramped laundry room and small and cramped kitchen!
Is there an oven?
Where would you start with the bathroom? Replacing the firewood with drywall?
For a surprisingly-large one-bedroom, that is a surprisingly small bedroom!
If those doors open up into one of the decrepit decks you could knock out the wall, build new walls where the ceiling ends, make the bedroom a master, put in another bedroom, and a laundry room?
If I could get a loan on a house with a bad roof then I could arguably afford this right now. With 10% down, Zillow says that it would be $264 a month for the mortgage, mortgage insurance, taxes, and insurance.
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09-09-2020, 05:43 PM
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