2000 Insight 5 speed repair & build thread

[Daox]

Filled up for the third time last night. 55.1 mpg was my score this time. Still working on getting lean burn to engage consistently and have more power. Sometimes its great and I can even accelerate, other times I struggle to even maintain 45 mph on flat road.

I also went ahead and ordered some LED brake light bulbs since one of mine is out. These are what I ended up going with from amazon. I have yet to install them due to a hand injury. I'll post updates when I do.

[NoD~]

Ill warn ya now: They aren't brighter than the OEM filament bulbs. That said, they fit well, give you instant on, and should outlast the vehicle.

I have those in my Forester. I went with some generic ones for my Insight and they worked VERY well, much brighter than stock. Though, Natalya got the same ones and, for whatever reason, it melted some of her wiring! That and they seemed to have pulled them from Amazon... so we'll see how long until they catch my car on fire.

[Natalya]

I wish Philips would make that same one, except a bit brighter. I saw the Philips ones on IC Member Bull Dog's Insight at Insight Fest 2016 and they weren't any brighter than OEM, which was disappointing, so I didn't buy them.

[Daox]

I finally installed the LED bulbs last night. I had a reminder from a coworker who followed me in to work that my light was out haha.

I'm really not concerned about brightness. If its near OEM brightness I'm fine with that. I didn't take any pictures as it was cold and windy and I wanted to go warm up.

[Daox]

Now that its getting warmer out I'm looking to address my bucking / surging issue again. The warmer weather has definitely helped smooth out the lean burn at the limit (yet still far from perfect). But, I'm still getting surging power during normal acceleration (not in lean burn). At this point, I'm thinking there must be some mechanical play in the timing system somewhere. Between all all the guys on IC who have replaced sensors, they have exhausted that idea. So, what are the chances of worn timing chain guides, or something like that? It would make sense as I get more power, less power, more power. It seems like its seeking.

I'd like to throw a OBDII logger on and see if the ignition timing is solid or jumpy. I imagine looking at the knock sensor output would also be a good idea. I'm hoping the OBDII will have enough resolution to even see this. Other factors / sensors to watch would be a welcome suggestion too. I know the coolant temp is solid as I watch that as a normal scangauge gauge.

[rmay635703]

I bought a very good running Insight that needed a new battery, I disabl d the battery to be able to make the 500 mile drive home.

Being a hypermiler I decided to EOC on a long downward stretch to a stop then bump started in 5th gear at about 15mph since the intersection was clear, after that I got herky jerky .

I think there must be some as of yet unidentfied source of timing mismatch in these cars, not sure it's source but something changes as they age.

[Daox]

I started messing around with monitoring some things on the Insight this morning. I just threw a few charts up on torque and drove to work. Of course today it ran really well and I didn't get any hesitation, pulsing, or herky jerky at all... Figures haha.

But, I did get this while cruising at 45 mph, at about 100 mpg. It (the timing blip) happened, but was virtually unnoticeable. It also seems a bit odd that the short term fuel trim is all over the place, but then again I haven't measured that on any other car to know that it is or isn't normal.




I've since added a few more graphs to the page like RPM and load and a MAP signal that will actually work. We'll see how it does on the way home and if that will shed anymore light on it. I am using torque lite (free version). It didn't have any gauge to measure knock detection. I'm wondering if that is the spike I'm seeing on the ignition advance? Does anyone know if torque pro (or any other app) will measure the knock sensor? There has to be one out there.

[Daox]

I took the Insight on a longer trip than usual and at higher speeds than normal. Lately its been running like junk. I can't even stay in lean burn and maintain 45 mph. I thought it was because it has been cold, wet, and windy. However, on this trip I got another P1259 code. I had one of these when I got the car, and one other time. I had just reset it, but I think now its a good time to address it. This code is for a v-tec malfunction. So, I'll likely be pulling the solenoid off soon and checking it out. I'm hoping the screen is just plugged up, but I'll make sure it actuates properly and the switch works while I'm at it.

[MetroMPG]

Maybe you're in VTEC-YO! mode all the time.

[ECO-AKJ]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

Maybe you're in VTEC-YO! mode all the time.

HAHA

Would that be now considered an Insight SI?