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Old 04-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh, okay, I didn't realize you could switch it off.

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Old 04-09-2012, 07:09 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Doh, I totally forgot about the engine auto-off on the manual transmission Gen1 Insight! I only ever got to drive one once, but boy was it fun.

I'm sure there's some good reasons why they were only doing the auto-engine off on the automatic transmission Kia Soul. Obviously if it was done on the Insight, manufacturers could choose to offer it on a manual transmission version as well.
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I'm sure there's some good reasons why they were only doing the auto-engine off on the automatic transmission Kia Soul.
It's plain marketing / import policy.
They're telling us we can't get it on their automatics ...
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Last I checked, the Soul auto-engine off feature was still "coming soon", so we can't get it in the States on the automatics either!

Seems like a neat feature though, and I'd love to see it on more cars.
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We rented a Fiat in France a couple of years ago that was manual and had the auto shut-off. It was great. Also, when we were on Tour in the UK last year, the Hyundai we rented had the same thing. It was a great car. Carried a three person band (including a 300 pounder), and all of our gear (scaled down setup from our normal - flights and all) on a 12 show tour around the UK, from top to bottom. Whole tour only took 1.5 tanks of gas. Low gear ratio, manual, auto shutoff - it all worked amazingly well. It's about time we start having these things coming to North America.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:54 AM   #36 (permalink)
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And 8 speed automatic from Chrysler - that just spells disaster.
What could possibly go wrong?
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somebody resurrected this thread so i thought i'd add to it. 2013 Ram 1500 EPA testing.


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Yeah the official EPA number are out. Here are the official numbers:

2012 1500 w/ 3.7L V6 w 4 spd auto (2WD): 14 mpg city, 20 highway, 16 mpg combined
2013 1500 w/ 3.6L V6 w 8 spd auto (2WD): 17 mpg city, 25 mpg highway, 20 mpg combined

So that's a 25% improvement in the combined rating. Not no shabby, although I suspect that may be largely due to how bad it was before rather than how good it is now.
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Myself, I'd worry about the automatic transmission.

To improve MPG the tranny simply has to do two things: Lock up the TC quickly after every shift, and reduce engine RPM at any given road speed except when accelerating or fighting a big load.

Both things act to reduce flow of ATF through the cooler. Hot automatics fail expensively. Complex automatics fail more expensively.

Myself, I wouldn't hit a dawg in the butt with any automatic made.
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Hot automatics fail expensively. Complex automatics fail more expensively.
I have been told buy transmission rebuilders that around 140'F is ideal.

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