Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Motorcycles / Scooters
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-17-2021, 10:21 PM   #51 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
Quote:
This isn't Eco-how-to-win-at-politics-modder.

Thank you.


You guys just can't resist, eh?


And now back to Aptera discussion, please and thank you...

__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
samwichse (04-18-2021)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-17-2021, 10:31 PM   #52 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,175

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 269
Thanked 3,522 Times in 2,796 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
100 CEOs needn't convene over some State's election laws. ....but here we are.
They're just affraid of the cancel mob.

I hope the cancel mob doesn't cancel the aptera.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2021, 10:43 PM   #53 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
I want to cancel the political discussion here.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
Isaac Zachary (04-17-2021), rmay635703 (04-18-2021), samwichse (04-18-2021)
Old 04-18-2021, 12:11 AM   #54 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,175

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 269
Thanked 3,522 Times in 2,796 Posts
I think they would be better off Axing the solar cells and offering it as an option.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 01:13 AM   #55 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,392

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 57.64 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 26.68 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,189
Thanked 4,378 Times in 3,353 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
I think they would be better off Axing the solar cells and offering it as an option.
Bad ideas can always be implemented later at the owners expense.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
oil pan 4 (04-18-2021)
Old 04-18-2021, 02:28 PM   #56 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,874

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 495
Thanked 863 Times in 650 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
Bad ideas can always be implemented later at the owners expense.
Based on my tally from the Prius forums there have been hundreds of the things bricked then junked during the pandemic due to sitting with a dead main hybrid battery .

My guess is these owners would have loved having a bad idea keeping their car drivable while it sat weeks or months instead of having the main battery fail.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to rmay635703 For This Useful Post:
samwichse (04-18-2021)
Old 04-18-2021, 02:38 PM   #57 (permalink)
Thalmaturge
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The edge of nowhere
Posts: 1,156

The Tinyvan - '07 Honda Fit Sport

Spicy Italian - '13 Fiat 500 Abarth

eBike - '94 Trek Mountain Track 820
Thanks: 763
Thanked 637 Times in 424 Posts
I don't mind the "bad idea," since my work parking is dead-ass in the middle of a full-sun, unshaded parking lot every day. Given the calculator on their site, I could go 8-9 months out of the year without charging at all and then a few months in the winter only charging occasionally with this as my commuter.

That would make it viable for me to own an EV, given I can't charge it at home.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 06:08 PM   #58 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,392

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 57.64 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 26.68 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,189
Thanked 4,378 Times in 3,353 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwichse View Post
I don't mind the "bad idea," since my work parking is dead-ass in the middle of a full-sun, unshaded parking lot every day. Given the calculator on their site, I could go 8-9 months out of the year without charging at all and then a few months in the winter only charging occasionally with this as my commuter.

That would make it viable for me to own an EV, given I can't charge it at home.
Nothin under the sun is stopping you from making a solar powered EV. It’s a bad enough idea that no manufacturer makes a profitable vehicle that significantly runs on solar affixed to the vehicle.

I’ll go further and say that if you don’t add solar to a vehicle that you are acknowledging it’s a bad idea; cause why wouldn't you pursue a good idea?
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!

Last edited by redpoint5; 04-19-2021 at 12:03 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 07:14 PM   #59 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,561
Thanks: 7,736
Thanked 8,554 Times in 7,041 Posts
Quote:
...cause why would’ve you pursue a good idea?
[looks around nervously]
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 08:46 PM   #60 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,548
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,622 Times in 1,447 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary View Post
I could be wrong and 98% of the population is and will remain strongly against an all EV future and will never let that happen. But for me, whatever happens happens, I'm not taking sides.
EVs may serve you just right, and do so for many others too, but forcing it as some sort of one-size-fits-all causes more problem than it would be supposed to solve.


Quote:
Regardless if the EPA lets manufacturers go back to carburetors, or older carbureted cars get banned
I won't hold my breath for old carburettor-fed cars being banned, but I also wouldn't believe them to make a comeback into newer vehicles. Even classics are often retrofitted with EFI nowadays.


Quote:
whether ICEV's will have to run on expensive synthetic fuel made from carbon capture because that's all there'll be at the pump or whether we'll have no limit to fracking and drilling until every last drop off carbon has been unearthed and burnt
Synthetic fuels made from carbon capture may eventually reach commercial viability, but I also support biofuels such as ethanol and biodiesel as they're better than leaving organic matter to rot while releasing raw methane and other compounds with a longer half-life than COČ on the atmosphere. There will always be some way to keep older engines running, just remember the humanity dominates the alcoholic fermentation process for a long time and will remain doing so.


Quote:
All I'm saying is my limited foresight sees the possibility of more EV's in the future. Maybe a little more or a lot more, but more.
Considering how many hybrids (including plug-ins) I see nowadays, and how 10 years ago I didn't believe I would see so many, EVs may get their niche too. But the hybrids are still more likely to address the needs of customers with different preferences, going from mild-hybrids meant only to satisfy the bureaucrats to the plug-in hybrids.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com