Brazilian law to allow police shoot anyone with a rifle.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by All Darc

Peacefull when USA police encounters white citizens carrying rifles...

I saw many news about black people being shot when police imagine a wallet in hand was a gun. I will not say it's 100% just racism, since criminal behavior among black people it's almost 10x higher than among white people. Police needd to take statistics somehow too when take decision. But the decision to take lethal force when there is no sure a guy have a gun... it's not nice.

Police in the US proportionately kill more white folk per encounter than black people. They aren't analyzing the shade of skin when they perceive threat. Nobody's seen the extremely disturbing video of Daniel Shaver getting shot in a hotel hallway because an unarmed white guy getting shot is evidence that some officers make bad calls in general, and it's got nothing to do with race.

The media spins a narrative to tell a story rather than portray reality. Sure, there's got to be racists out there, but that isn't the norm. If anything, the systemic problem is the training that places too much emphasis on shoot first and ask questions never. Police are trained to shoot if they perceive a threat to their life. That interpretation is up to the officer, not to anyone else.

[oil pan 4]

If a white person does something stupid and gets shot or gets their arse beat by the police they probably deserved it and they should have known better.
If you say that about a minority your are the bad guy, even if you are in the same demographic as the perp the cops put a beat down on.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by All Darc

The question is that snipers could shoot minors carrying rifles.

That's a good thing. Better than giving them time to breed and waste taxpayers' money on bolsa-família and auxílio-reclusão.

[slowmover]

Forced sterilization two generations ago. Children by permit only. (“Oh, wait, this isn’t 1967?”). Execution for violent crimes, and extending down to theft.

The stupid & violent breed like roaches.

The society that can’t use them openly (only in the dark; Yakuza; or, see Meyer Lansky running the Italians), becomes engulfed by them. Oldest story in history.

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[Xist]

Eu não sei.

[Fat Charlie]

No me gusta.

[All Darc]

Well, even if I put the human ethic aspect by side for a second, your argument fails a bit, since the relatives of the minor shooted would sue the state and get money. And state's money is taxes payer's money.

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

That's a good thing. Better than giving them time to breed and waste taxpayers' money on bolsa-família and auxílio-reclusão.

[All Darc]

If some racist theories have some true science, like if realy the incidence of genes linked to criminality be higher in afro descendants populations, that would help to explain brazilian high criminality, even in many non blacks, but since race crossbreeding it's very high on Brazil.
I never see a gang of japaneses, even very poor ones (who came poor whe immigrate), like the ones from Okinawa. Such people when broke the law are in different ways, non violent in general, and in much lower incidence.

I'm in favor of sterilization of violent recidivist criminals. Also for people who are heavy drug users and live on street. For me people (babies) have right to a good and clean gestation, right to born in good families.
For non criminals that are too poor, I'm in favor of good incentives to vasectomy and female sterilization or DIU.

The cost of high breeding among very poor, criminals and among homeless & heavy drug users, makes a lot more difficult to the government to help such people. It's a lot easier to help someone get a better life than help a family of 7 people all living in misery.

Brazilian catholic culture and also evangelical culture are terrible in one thing, since they almost demand, make pressure, to people have kids, even very poor or stupid people or people that would be horrible fathers or horrible mothers. As result a lot of people that should make a favor to humanity by not having kids, ends up having kids.
Good people who don't want kids are not well seen by society. For other side a cretin who get kids starts to be seen by other as a man of family.

And sex revolution (I refer to lust and not about rights) and erotic culture "freedom" on TV and media, had terrible effect in countries in development or even in low social groops with poor culture or poor morals. These groops ends up in deep sh...t.
And in such sceneario the decent guys and decent girls breed less then the sh..t head people with genes that favors agressive and criminals behavior or low intelligence.

Originally Posted by slowmover

Forced sterilization two generations ago. Children by permit only. (“Oh, wait, this isn’t 1967?”). Execution for violent crimes, and extending down to theft.

The stupid & violent breed like roaches.

The society that can’t use them openly (only in the dark; Yakuza; or, see Meyer Lansky running the Italians), becomes engulfed by them. Oldest story in history.

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[All Darc]

Uhnn... We would need to evaluete the data. General numbers and percentages.

I see some racist people (from racist organizations like American Renaissanse), arguing that black people disobey police's order a lot more than whites, or react violent against police officers when are approached. But I must remamber that racist organizations are suspect, so we need toc heck this before take as true.

In a video of brazilian police arresting a black criminal, he was resisting arrest so much that two officers together was having a lot of problem, and even with the police truncheon on his neck, he was still resisting frantically. And a pregnant women (wife or girfriend of the criminal) near the officer started to punch the police officer and scream like crazy. If the police office reacted against the woman... they would say police tried to kill the baby. The only thing the poolice officer could do was to try to move the woman away.

Women can hit man, and in the end most judges will think : It's just a crazy woman, so I will not punish her as for a man.

Sociologist will say it's due poor and violent culture where many black are raised. Some even agree that black fathers and mothers are more violent against their own kids, increasing the chances of raise kids more prone to violence and criminality.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Police in the US proportionately kill more white folk per encounter than black people. They aren't analyzing the shade of skin when they perceive threat. Nobody's seen the extremely disturbing video of Daniel Shaver getting shot in a hotel hallway because an unarmed white guy getting shot is evidence that some officers make bad calls in general, and it's got nothing to do with race.

The media spins a narrative to tell a story rather than portray reality. Sure, there's got to be racists out there, but that isn't the norm. If anything, the systemic problem is the training that places too much emphasis on shoot first and ask questions never. Police are trained to shoot if they perceive a threat to their life. That interpretation is up to the officer, not to anyone else.

[Fat Charlie]

And we also need to remember that police approach blacks differently than they approach whites, leading to different outcomes. Studies show that young students even get disciplined more harshly in schools if they are black, as well.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Police in the US proportionately kill more white folk per encounter than black people.

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

If a white person does something stupid and gets shot or gets their arse beat by the police they probably deserved it and they should have known better.

Possibly because by the time a cop has finally decided to go after a white guy, he's already gone through proper decision making procedures and is now more likely to be dealing with an actual criminal? If (God forbid) police homicides were fully reported, would we find that a higher percentage of blue on white killings were legitimate, while a higher percentage of blue on black killings were simply "our laws defer to the cop because we hired him, so while the dead guy did nothing wrong, we can't prosecute the cop"?

All Darc- your sex revolution wouldn't be a problem without religions (and "religious" people) actively fighting the availability of birth control. It's funny how life is sacred until birth, then that life suddenly becomes a burden on society and the parents are horrible people. Allow (even fund?) birth control, and suddenly you don't have all this forced sterilization talk.

If you're written off by society as a burden from day one and your parents are demonized for having you, what stake do you have in society? You've been not simply abandoned, but actively pushed out... and then called a criminal. That's society's fault, not yours. The government and established religions called you their enemy from the day you were born and now are disappointed with how you turned out? I'm calling bull****.