California to ban selling new gas-powered cars by 2035

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

No income, no problem.



I understand the logic, but that looks regressive.

Yes and no. Older vehicles are generally less fuel efficient and are the ones owned by less wealthy people, and newer cars tend to be more fuel efficient and owned by more wealthy. But, the wealthy tend to purchase larger vehicles, which are less fuel efficient. Some less wealthy people purchase inexpensive and highly fuel efficient vehicles...

Roads should be funded from the general fund as needed. Fuel taxes should only be levied to target consumption goals and contribute to the general fund. Registration expenses should cover only the cost of recording ownership.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

No income, no problem.

I understand the logic, but that looks regressive.

It is the Oregon Legislature's position that the fuel tax and registration fees are designed to raise money for transportation infrastructure. It is also their position that all drivers should contribute to paying for those roads and that all drivers should pay a similar amount of tax to fund that transportation infrastructure. So the less you pay in fuel tax the more you pay in pay in registration fees.

The future plan is that every driver will pay a flat fee per mile they drive on Oregon roads.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by JSH

The future plan is that every driver will pay a flat fee per mile they drive on Oregon roads.

That will be quite regressive. I'll pay nothing since my commute is zero. Wealthy people can afford to be closer to work.

Everybody benefits equally from infrastructure regardless if they use it directly or not.

Maybe I should pay nothing for police and fire services since I've never called them.

[oil pan 4]

Sounds like a way to punish motorists.

[freebeard]

Beatings will continue until yer morals improve.

[redpoint5]

My friend's dad had 100% of his brokerage customer's data on a DOS box that was 15 years old when it stopped booting. I had old hardware from a scrap heap at work that happened to take the hard drive without issue.

He gave me $100 for recovering his whole careers worth of customer data. Not complaining because I expected nothing. Plus I'd cost him a lot I'm sure during my youth.

[freebeard]

Imagine the dopamine hit you get from talking somebody through editing their Registry over the phone, and they achieve success. One of my co-workers script included "help me to help you."

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

My friend's dad had 100% of his brokerage customer's data on a DOS box that was 15 years old when it stopped booting. I had old hardware from a scrap heap at work that happened to take the hard drive without issue.

Sometimes it's quite shocking to notice most of the hardware which used to be mainstream became obsolete beyond any chance of remaining viable, not even resorting to some minimalist Linux distro.

He gave me $100 for recovering his whole careers worth of customer data.

Better than a friend of my father, who expected me to load a moving van for him at no cost, while I was so sick I couldn't carry a 14" CRT TV

[JSH]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Sounds like a way to punish motorists.

How is a fee per mile tax any more "punishing" than a fuel tax?

[freebeard]

"All tax is theft"? Not my position, the first rebuttal that comes to mind.

Since we are denied that other thread, here's a Greta Thunberg story:

decider.com: Greta Thunberg Sobs in Heartbreaking ‘I Am Greta’ Scene: “It’s Such A Responsibility”

Trapped by her fame like a fly in amber in the La Brea tar pit, apparently.